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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Taliban considers murder wrong? Oh, the people they beheaded and shot from behind must have been executed huh?
    Yes.

    It's all dependent on what your culture/government define as unacceptable killing - aka "Murder".

    Edit: We, of course, consider them to be sick murdering ****s.

    But I'm sure they justify their behavior in some way.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    According to NGR 500, only the state AG has that descretion.
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...74649129,d.aWw

    ....I'm not seeing a section 4-6 at all. 4-1 & 4-2 and then on to section 5.

    The reason Im pressing for the exact authority is because every single tome Im out in public in uniform for any length of time I'm always asked if I would fire on civilians if they resisted gun confiscation. Every single time. I plan to keep this document in my uniform to show the next person who asks that we aren't allowed to.

    It's not the first FM or publication I've kept on me with spicific citations earmarked.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yes.

    It's all dependent on what your culture/government define as unacceptable killing - aka "Murder".

    Edit: We, of course, consider them to be sick murdering ****s.

    But I'm sure they justify their behavior in some way.
    So a group who murders considers murder wrong, that's a new one, how many Taliban have you interviewed to draw that conclusion?

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    So a group who murders considers murder wrong, that's a new one, how many Taliban have you interviewed to draw that conclusion?
    None.

    I'm basing it on my limited understanding of humans in general - For example some would call "collateral damage" "murder".

    But in actuality it's simply acceptable deaths/killing - we accept that if we (edit: By "we" here, I mean the US, although it probably applies to other countries as well) do X (bomb some building, attack some town with troops), there WILL be some civilian causalities - which we call "Collateral damage".

    Someone else might look at the same event and say "murder", but so far as I know it's only murder if the laws you operate under consider it such.


    I seriously doubt that whatever laws the Taliban operates under consider their actions which kill a bunch of people to be murder - or at least, if they do, it's "acceptable murder", which is effectively not...murder.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    So a group who murders considers murder wrong, that's a new one, how many Taliban have you interviewed to draw that conclusion?
    Want to point out a huge gaping hole in this logic.

    Murder is defined as killing that is unlawful. Not all killing is murder. Not all killing is considered "wrong" to all people. In fact, many people have different beliefs as to what kinds of killings should be murder. Some believe that any killing, even during war or for self defense should be murder. Some feel that abortion should be murder. Others feel that it should not be murder to kill a person who has greatly harmed your family (such as killing a daughter's or wife's rapist, even if they are already in custody). And still others feel it is justifiable (aka should not be murder) to kill someone who has brought shame to themself or their family. Yet others still believe certain killing certain people should not be murder because they do not view those people as humans or at least not on the same level they are.

    Many different groups have fell into this last category by someone else, African Americans, Jews, women, Native Americans, gays, Kurds, Christians, mentally or physically disabled, and many, many others throughout history. The vast majority of those who have killed other groups or types of people in history for one of those things I mentioned, those doing the killing have justified it as "necessary" and most of the time, it is not "murder" in the place where it is being done because it was generally state sanctioned in some way, or at least state supported.

    However, these same groups that would kill others for just those mentioned characteristics, also have had laws against killing other people who did not have those characteristics.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    OK I was gone from the board for 2 weeks and thus I haven't seen all the posts regarding Ferguson. However, as far as I can tell, in all the posts on DP about all the things that happened in Ferguson no one has posted even a word about the officers who went home after their duty shift and baked batches of cookies and handed them out to protesters the next day.
    Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source for this?

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...74649129,d.aWw

    ....I'm not seeing a section 4-6 at all. 4-1 & 4-2 and then on to section 5.

    The reason Im pressing for the exact authority is because every single tome Im out in public in uniform for any length of time I'm always asked if I would fire on civilians if they resisted gun confiscation. Every single time. I plan to keep this document in my uniform to show the next person who asks that we aren't allowed to.

    It's not the first FM or publication I've kept on me with spicific citations earmarked.
    NGR 500 specifically states what conditions must exist to authorize deadly force.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    NGR 500 specifically states what conditions must exist to authorize deadly force.
    Where?

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Not that I don't believe you, but do you have a source for this?
    Na, man. I was just jiving everybody. I certainly don't have a source because it probably never happened.










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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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