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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Oh, so now it's about attitudes!

    Basically, "militarized", is the latest in a long line of dumbass Libbo catch phrases used to demonize people they don't like. It doesn't really mean anything, but it sounds good and the more you say it, the more true it becomes...yes?
    So you deny that in the last 40 or so years - more or less concurrent with the war on drugs - that police have been given access to weapons and equipment that was originally meant for the US military? You further deny that there has been a huge increase in the use of of no knock warrants and that those warrants are often served by teams armed with weapons provided by the US military and often against non violent offenders? And finally you deny police armed with those same weapons are
    Often used in a manner meant to intimidate the populace?
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    See, MLK was assassinated, not at Mc Donalds.

    MLK didn't sue because when you're assassinated, you're dead, deceased.

    People @ Mc Donalds in Ferguson allegedly had their civil and constitutional rights violated, and are seeking $40 million in restitution for having their rights violated. None of the Mc Donalds patrons were killed, thankfully. If they had been killed, it would be difficult for them to collect anything if they were killed.
    I don't get it? Usually, you and I are pretty much on the same side, for the most part, on just about every subject. Yet this time, your being so obtuse as to not even read or give justice to my entire posts? Why is that?

    Would you like to have a real discussion about this? Or just continue with the obfuscation? Because if it's the latter, I don't want to participate.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents[W:76]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Property is worth all of the time one life has put into acquiring it, stealing that steals that time and makes one a slave retroactively.
    Ah, yes, no doubt. So, the thief is really a slave master.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The Taliban considers murder wrong too....are we disagreeing with them on that too? Even a clock is right twice a day.
    Shooting someone in the act of theft is not murder, at least not according to the values of the Taliban.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    So you deny that in the last 40 or so years - more or less concurrent with the war on drugs - that police have been given access to weapons and equipment that was originally meant for the US military? You further deny that there has been a huge increase in the use of of no knock warrants and that those warrants are often served by teams armed with weapons provided by the US military and often against non violent offenders? And finally you deny police armed with those same weapons are
    Often used in a manner meant to intimidate the populace?
    Give me some examples of the weapons and equipment you mean.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    I know what the equal protection clause says. It doesn't apply. We already sentence people more harshly for aggravating circumstances. And felonious conduct while acting under the color of authority could certainly be seen as a circumstance warranting a harsher sentence.
    It doesn't apply?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by contrapositive View Post
    No, I was talking about texmex, not you
    Sorry...my mistake.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sincerely depends on what you want to hold them accountable for. Using swear words? No. Tearing up over the memory of an especially tragic crime scene they worked. No. Talking to each other in non PC approved ways? No.

    Now let me ask you, is there anything that could happen to these cops that you feel would be too harsh? I kept pushing the envelope of what should happen to them, right up to tossing them and their family on the street and encouraging suicide kinda hoping someone would disagree with me but nobody did. It was eye opening.
    Nobody disagreed with you because everyone knows you're full of **** so they ignored you.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Personally, I take civil rights VERY seriously. MLK never sued for 40 million bucks.

    If you give an honest read to what I posted, you will see that I support them fighting for their rights, just not for a get rich quick scheme.
    I understand the point, but just don't think it is an either/or choice. You've focused on the $40 million, but that number is irrelevant - big enough to turn heads in the press but beyond that more or less pointless. The plaintiff has to prove his or her case, or demonstrate they can prove it, then the parties negotiate, and that could result in everything from a large financial award, or next to nothing in damages, but the department agrees to what you say you want - oversight, etc.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I understand the point, but just don't think it is an either/or choice. You've focused on the $40 million, but that number is irrelevant - big enough to turn heads in the press but beyond that more or less pointless. The plaintiff has to prove his or her case, or demonstrate they can prove it, then the parties negotiate, and that could result in everything from a large financial award, or next to nothing in damages, but the department agrees to what you say you want - oversight, etc.
    My problem with this suit, as I've said, is that any monetary reward will only hurt the tax payers. Any suit should be focused on change and improvement, not some financial reward for those allegedly harmed, which that harm is in no way worth any monetary reward. IMHO.

    Want to sue to force a criminal investigation? Fine, I'd be for that. Want to sue to force reforms and oversight of the department? Fine, I'd be for that as well. Want to sue to get rich, when there is no long lasting harm to the alleged victims? NO, that doesn't do anything to change anything and stinks of greed to me. Again, IMHO.
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