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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm just agreeing with all of you. Really, when we're talking about cops, is there any such thing as being too extreme? Certainly we shouldn't show any kind of compassion or understanding. Just trying to to get on board with the popular thought. Granted, I know a lot of cops and it'll take some time to start regarding them all as scum but I'll try.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

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    I guess you didn't see any pictures from Ferguson. This is too rich!
    How about you educate me on the military weapons the Ferguson PD was equipped with?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

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    We can start by only giving them the same weapons everyone else has access to. You know, the way it was intended.
    Well hell, they already have weapons that everyone else has...problem solved! Next?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    Do you think they shouldn't be held accountable in some way?
    Sincerely depends on what you want to hold them accountable for. Using swear words? No. Tearing up over the memory of an especially tragic crime scene they worked. No. Talking to each other in non PC approved ways? No.

    Now let me ask you, is there anything that could happen to these cops that you feel would be too harsh? I kept pushing the envelope of what should happen to them, right up to tossing them and their family on the street and encouraging suicide kinda hoping someone would disagree with me but nobody did. It was eye opening.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sincerely depends on what you want to hold them accountable for. Using swear words? No. Tearing up over the memory of an especially tragic crime scene they worked. No. Talking to each other in non PC approved ways? No.

    Now let me ask you, is there anything that could happen to these cops that you feel would be too harsh? I kept pushing the envelope of what should happen to them, right up to tossing them and their family on the street and encouraging suicide kinda hoping someone would disagree with me but nobody did. It was eye opening.
    They didn't disagree because that's too ridiculous to even address X. Come on for crying out loud. If you want to be taken seriously here (and believe me I know this) you've got to be a little more grounded in your reactions to this kind of thing.

    Anyway, back on topic. Would you agree that a police officer must be held to a higher standard when it comes to how he allows his feelings to effect how he performs his job? Not unlike a surgeon or a pilot. Peoples lives are on the line.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    They didn't disagree because that's too ridiculous to even address X. Come on for crying out loud. If you want to be taken seriously here (and believe me I know this) you've got to be a little more grounded in your reactions to this kind of thing.

    Anyway, back on topic. Would you agree that a police officer must be held to a higher standard when it comes to how he allows his feelings to effect how he performs his job? Not unlike a surgeon or a pilot. Peoples lives are on the line.
    Comparison fail: doctors and airline pilots aren't being shot at, nor attacked with rocks and homemade fire-bombs. If they did, you would probably see the same type of reaction.

    X Factor's point, is that cops are humans, with emotions, not machines. I would like to see YOU in the same situation and see how you react. BTW, have you ever been a cop?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    They didn't disagree because that's too ridiculous to even address X. Come on for crying out loud. If you want to be taken seriously here (and believe me I know this) you've got to be a little more grounded in your reactions to this kind of thing.
    From my vast experience, if someone disagrees with something I've said, they're usually not shy about saying so. What was ridiculous exactly? I was told that nobody should care at all what happened to those two cops. That means nothing that happns to them should concern us no matter what. If their houses got firebombed tonight, according to Wiggen (at least), we should regard that with no interest or concern at all. How about Henrin saying that it would be better to watch a cop die than try to help. If you think my examples are ridiculous, like I have zero reason to believe people think that way, open your eyes.

    Anyway, back on topic. Would you agree that a police officer must be held to a higher standard when it comes to how he allows his feelings to effect how he performs his job? Not unlike a surgeon or a pilot. Peoples lives are on the line.
    I don't believe they should be held to impossible standards or expected to be super human. It would be nice if people wanted to equip them to deal with the stress of the job for the sake of the cop but I haven't seen anyone be interested in their mental health, just concern over how they can "serve" us.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Comparison fail: doctors and airline pilots aren't being shot at, nor attacked with rocks and homemade fire-bombs. If they did, you would probably see the same type of reaction.

    X Factor's point, is that cops are humans, with emotions, not machines. I would like to see YOU in the same situation and see how you react. BTW, have you ever been a cop?
    I sincerely wonder if all these people arguing against making any allowances for their humanity would like it better if the human element was completely removed.

    Maybe they would. /shrug
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I sincerely wonder if all these people arguing against making any allowances for their humanity would like it better if the human element was completely removed.

    Maybe they would. /shrug
    None of them get it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Comparison fail: doctors and airline pilots aren't being shot at, nor attacked with rocks and homemade fire-bombs. If they did, you would probably see the same type of reaction.

    X Factor's point, is that cops are humans, with emotions, not machines. I would like to see YOU in the same situation and see how you react. BTW, have you ever been a cop?
    The policeman was asked his name. Not normally a blind rage-inducing question.
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