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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    That's why I used the emoticon.
    Sorry I missed it, I was still in shock over apdst's statement.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    This makes me think their training in insufficient and/or they get. It's a tremendously difficult job when the expectation is that you use something other than brute strength only.


    and this makes me think they get off the hook to easy when they abuse the power they've been given.
    The one officer, (I'm not sure which) has been disciplined multiple times as I read in a news report, and yet, kept repeating the same mistakes.

    Do you have a job? Have you ever held a job? I have. How many times is the boss to allow us to mess up before they finally say, well, we gotta let you go?

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We can start by only giving them the same weapons everyone else has access to. You know, the way it was intended.
    Let there be all out warfare...

    But you have a point.

    The right in the US demands the right to keep and bear arms, that its a universal right, there shouldn't even be background checks, that this is to honor the spirit of the secnd amendment and standing militias etc., but at the fist sign of a problem, in this case resulting in a dead unarmed teen, they also demand the citizenry be gased, have all weapons taken away and their right to assembly demolished.

    If every American can have all manner of guns, then why do not the protesters also have assault rifles, tear gas, mace, body armor, tanks and so forth?
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Right, they should just bury any feelings they have and never actually display humanity or emotion at any time ever and those who do should be left with nothing.

    Sounds healthy to me.
    That's not what I said. There are certain jobs where displaying or acting out your emotions interferes with your effectiveness and keeps you from fulfilling the role you obligated yourself to fulfill by signing up for the job. Cops are bound to support or enforce the law in narrowly defined way and our law is supposed to be impartial and objective. Their first obligation is to do that and in doing so preserve the integrity of our laws, not to become the law themselves. That is not their job
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    That's not what I said. There are certain jobs where displaying or acting out your emotions interferes with your effectiveness and keeps you from fulfilling the role you obligated yourself to fulfill by signing up for the job. Cops are bound to support or enforce the law in narrowly defined way and our law is supposed to be impartial and objective. Their first obligation is to do that and in doing so preserve the integrity of our laws, not to become the law themselves. That is not their job
    I get what you're saying. Any display of emotion makes someone unsuited to the job. Maybe it's time to start thinking of law enforcement robots, y'know, take that deeply flawed human element out of it.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    I assure you that the cop that accidentally killed his police dog will feel that way--though he got pounded by righties for reasons I still can't figure.

    I think the public is tired of these guys getting full pensions and compounded COLA to be paid by the very people he terrorized.

    Lord knows how many times I've had to hear I don't deserve my pension and I'm in good standing with the law .
    Did you have the same sympathy for the man that left his child in the car that died?

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Unpopular Police Officer Thinking About Committing Racially Motivated Offense For A Little Support

    INDIANAPOLIS—Tired of being overlooked by everyone in his precinct, unpopular Indianapolis Police Department officer Kyle Norris told reporters Wednesday he was considering committing a racially motivated offense to generate a little support. “To be honest, I’m not the most well-known or looked-up-to guy around here, but I’m thinking that if I get caught up in a controversy after shooting a minority resident under questionable circumstances, things would really change for me,” said Norris, who added that having his coworkers immediately rally around him after the incident, watching consecutive nights of public demonstrations defending his actions, and finally receiving praise directly from the chief of police would be a nice change of pace from his day-to-day life as an ignored and unappreciated member of the force.
    Did you post this seriously?

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    The one officer, (I'm not sure which) has been disciplined multiple times as I read in a news report, and yet, kept repeating the same mistakes.

    Do you have a job? Have you ever held a job? I have. How many times is the boss to allow us to mess up before they finally say, well, we gotta let you go?
    I mentioned in a post to someone else that we need to hold cops to higher standards of behavior because they represent the law and our laws are suppose to be objective or unbiased. If police officers aren't getting the training needed to equip them with this ability then we need to re-evaluate the kind of training they get. Why do we teach them how to shoot people but not how to self-manage and deal, without resorting to violence themselves, the complex situations they are forced to deal with. Cops hold the power of life and death in their hands and that imposes an enormous responsibility on them to wield that power with great discretion. There seems to me that some people want to excuse them of every misstep. As if simply by signing up to be a cop you are suddenly immune too normal human weaknesses. Some seem to want to have us recognize that they are fallible humans but only if when we do so it's to forgive them for something but never to hold them accountable.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I get what you're saying. Any display of emotion makes someone unsuited to the job. Maybe it's time to start thinking of law enforcement robots, y'know, take that deeply flawed human element out of it.
    X. You're doing it again. I know you have a greater capacity to understand a different point of view than your own than this.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    I don't think the department had a choice in either of these cases.

    An officer that points a rifle at unarmed people in a tense situation is indicative of an officer that can't handle pressure very well and if something should happen in the future, like a killing, the department would be on the hook because they had prior knowledge of his instability.

    The same is true for the commenter. What this man posted on Twitter or wherever it was, shows his attitude towards the people he is supposed to be protecting. Again the department had no choice. Who knows when he will snap and act on his comments.

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