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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    Police officers have extraordinary powers that can be easily abused, and if an officer makes statements on the internet like the one did, then he should not be on the force. The one that said F You should have been disciplined and a review done to see if he could stay on the force with counseling to help him deal with the pressures that the riots put on him. Maybe that was done, and he chose to maintain his position. I don't know.

    However, many of the officers in that town seem to me to be good public servants that did their job and wanted to help not harm. Hell, even some the black citizens took up positions to defend stores from the looters and confronted them with the same language and disdain as the officer that said F You. Videos of them doing so are all over the internet, yet we harp on one guy that lost his temper, was obviously scared and used a politically incorrect term. Again, I don't know what happened with that guy. Maybe he maintained that attitude, and maybe even has had that attitude for years - if so he needed to go, but if not, this was too harsh to ruin a career over.
    Saw on the internet news somewhere that some people have filed a $40 million lawsuit against officers who were in Ferguson trying to control the crowds, stems from officers ordering a mother and child in a Mc D's restaurant onto the floor while they were purchasing ice cream, they were cuffed and hauled away for asking why they were told to leave and why they were being ordered around, since they weren't the ones causing the so called trouble.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't agree at all, but then I don't personally have a fear of police or law enforcement and I've never committed a crime, although I have sped on occasion and accept my punishment when caught. I believe police prevent lots of crime, particularly in large cities, by their very presence as well as by investigating crime before and after it happens.
    The best tools to lower crime in society are wealth and culture. Police are not even on the radar. In reality, and outside of statist propaganda, force is a pretty ****ty tool to lower crime. It's also just freaking bizarre to say it keeps peace.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Why would anyone concentrate on these two bad cops as though they represent the whole. I watched the situation in Ferguson. I saw dozens and dozens of cops who didn't abuse anyone, who didn't point their weapons at anyone. Why the intense effort to defend these two indefensible cops?
    Why would anyone concentrate on the vast minority of airplanes that crash? I've watched hundreds upon hundreds of airplanes land without incident.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Source? Not a chance. I seriously doubt it ever happened. Or ever will.
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    Ye gods! I've got a head cold.... wasn't thinking.

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It doesn't work like that. If a poster is going to claim that the police are too militarized, it's up to that poster to provide examples and solutions when asked for them.


    I guess you didn't see any pictures from Ferguson. This is too rich!

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Why would anyone concentrate on the vast minority of airplanes that crash? I've watched hundreds upon hundreds of airplanes land without incident.
    Are you defending this cops? I certainly wasn't!

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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    ..............
    Sorry, you're right. I know what you meant.
    no problem

    Yes I do. Here's the thing. I've interacted with a lot of cops. They say things to each other that would be pretty offensive to some. I just disagree with criminalizing that or tossing them on the junk heap for having human emotion. I've seen more than one cop choke up a little upon describing some particularly bad crime scene (usually involving children). According to many here, that display of emotion/humanity means they're not worthy of a badge. I just think that's bull****.
    I think people who write off ALL cops as any single thing are probably, in reality few and far between, and I don't think anyone expects them to be emotionless. It's more a matter of what you choose to share or show, your actions. They really need to practice exemplary self control when it comes to their actions. That doesn't mean they aren't free to think and feel whatever they want.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    Are you defending this cops? I certainly wasn't!
    That's why I used the emoticon.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by opendebate View Post
    no problem



    I think people who write off ALL cops as any single thing are probably, in reality few and far between, and I don't think anyone expects them to be emotionless. It's more a matter of what you choose to share or show, your actions. They really need to practice exemplary self control when it comes to their actions. That doesn't mean they aren't free to think and feel whatever they want.
    Right, they should just bury any feelings they have and never actually display humanity or even speak emotionally at any time ever and those who do should be left with nothing.

    Sounds healthy to me. Seriously, don't know why any cops stay on the job. It's not like they get paid tons to be universally unappreciated.
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    Re: Police officer resigns, another is fired after Ferguson incidents

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    That might be difficult to achieve since most people after finishing college have no desire to become police officers.

    I know of at least two towns or cities where the minimum requirements to apply for the position of police officers are no felony convictions and an almost clean police record (having nothing other than parking tickets), being 21 years of age, and only having a high school education, they will train people. That's setting the bar pretty low for having to deal with a population that's pretty diverse and dealing with the public on a general basis, some of which are more qualified to be a peace officer than the police officer him/her self.
    This makes me think their training in insufficient and/or they get. It's a tremendously difficult job when the expectation is that you use something other than brute strength only.

    Some cities and counties have a pattern of abuses, one of which is Ferguson and the police department itself, the other is St Louis county.
    and this makes me think they get off the hook to easy when they abuse the power they've been given.
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