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Michael Sam released by Rams

With his talent? Pretty much ...

Ridiculous.

He's a marginal to average talent. There's dozens upon dozens of such guys all across the NFL's practice squads or back end of the 53 man roster. There's also hundreds of them that wash out every year.

If he made a team it wouldn't be because of "PC bull****", just like if he's not picked up it's not because of "homophobic bull****". Push comes to shove, these decisions are going to be made as it relates to the football teams ability to win...not prejudices or politics.

Sam is a better fit in a 4-3 then 3-4, that cuts out about half of the teams in the league that are likely interested in him. Teams in general tend to be more apt to practive squad their own guys at the start of a season than another teams guys, so the fact the Rams are deep at DE making it less necessary to keep extras on the PS hurts him. He played very well comparitive to other 3rd stringers in a live game situation, but was average at teams. Unfortunately for him 3rd stringers are more likely to be playing special teams than they are to be in a live defensive situation.

There's plenty of reasons...FOOTBALL reasons....to think he'll be picked up sometime this year or carried by a team into camp next year. There's also plenty of football reasons to think he won't be picked up. The ridiculous, ignorant, and just non-sensical need by both sides of this debate to scream that the other sides claim of bias isn't true but their sides claim of bias is the reason things are/would happen is just laughable.
 
Yes I saw that. The Alouettes have supposedly "reached out to him" according to Sports Illustrated. Hell he could play in worse places. Montreal is a cool city.

I wonder if the opponents of the " Alouettes " come into the Arena singing the old French Children's song " Aloette " ?

You know,
" Aloette, gentille Alouette "
" Aloette , je te plumerai "....

The songs is about plucking the feathers and beak from a small helpless Bird.
 
I wonder if the opponents of the " Alouettes " come into the Arena singing the old French Children's song " Aloette " ?

You know,
" Aloette, gentille Alouette "
" Aloette , je te plumerai "....

The songs is about plucking the feathers and beak from a small helpless Bird.

That same song goes through my head when I think of them.:mrgreen:
 
Sorry....but you are wrong. It isn't a legitimate argument and has been proven false time and again. Most people don't give a ****. It is just the one remaining failed argument that the homophobes are desperately clinging to because they have nothing left in their arsenal of hatred and bigotry.

Proven wrong? How absurd, but go ahead, marginalize away my dear good man!


Tim-
 
CFL would hardly be a death sentence for his aspirations. A lengthy career could still be had there, or it's a place to develop before you make a go at the NFL again ala Cam Wake

Or Warren Moon - all star in Edmonton before he got the job in Houston.
 
There's word that Montreal will pick him up?

Tim-

Seems odd though. Montreal has a lot of troubles, but their Defence is pretty good. They need a QB - big time. Troy Smith isn't working out for them very well at all. Or Ochocinco for that matter.
 
CFL would hardly be a death sentence for his aspirations. A lengthy career could still be had there, or it's a place to develop before you make a go at the NFL again ala Cam Wake
CFL did wonders for Doug Flutie.
 
That same song goes through my head when I think of them.:mrgreen:


Are the Fans for their opponents up in the stands plucking the feathers out of little stuffed alouettes ?

I would be.

60 thousand ppl doing that. ...what a mess
 
CFL did wonders for Doug Flutie.

Or Warren Moon - all star in Edmonton before he got the job in Houston.

Two excellent examples. I went with Wake to give an analog to a defensive pass rusher (though Wake's shown improvement to an every down player rather than just a pass rush specialist)
 
How many of the posts are from you?

Yeah....

Hey now, I'm sure he's made it clear this whole homosexual thing has nothing to do with him and he's not interested in discussing it.


What someone feels inherently related to their own sexuality isn't a "concept", founded on ignorance and fear or anything else. It's part of that individuals mental/physical/sexual makeup. To suggest that heterosexuals with an aversion to homosexuals is a developed "concept" is to play into the hands of those who claim that homosexuality is a developed taste, or "concept". Using your logic, homosexual males simply have a concept of females and sex that is founded out of ignorance and fear - equally nonsensical.

Institutionalized hate is the same as sexual orientation?
 
Two excellent examples. I went with Wake to give an analog to a defensive pass rusher (though Wake's shown improvement to an every down player rather than just a pass rush specialist)

It's also kind of why I'm amazed Tebow isn't in Canada - Running QB, he'd be good up there, and work on his throwing mechanics to try to come back. I guess he's too good for the CFL (in his own mind).

Watching the CFL over the weekend, a lot of teams have short yardage QBs - guys who can run and take punishment come in on 2nd and short to get the 1st down or TD. Pat White (formerly of the Dolphins) is doing that in Edmonton now. A guy like Tebow who's a threat to run any down = gold in Canada.
 
Apparantly the Cowbows are close to signing him.
 
Cowboys prepping to sign Sam to practice squad

[insert full metal jacket quote here]

Before a bunch of the pantiwastes that don't watch football want to get offended with what will UNDOUBTABLY come flooding out from the realm of the interwebs....brokeback mountain jokes about the Dallas Cowboys have been occuring for YEARS. If you suddenly see some please don't think it's directly because of Sam; mocking the Cowboys in every way possible is a long standing tradition in football
 
I haven't the professional training necessary to attempt an analysis of how you got that out of my comments.

It's simple. Take yourself out of emotion and confusion and look at the post as if it is not yours:

To suggest that heterosexuals with an aversion to homosexuals is a developed "concept" is to play into the hands of those who claim that homosexuality is a developed taste, or "concept".

You are CLEARLY equating institutionalized hate with sexual orientation.

If you cannot see that - your problem not mine.
 
Cowboys prepping to sign Sam to practice squad

[insert full metal jacket quote here]

Before a bunch of the pantiwastes that don't watch football want to get offended with what will UNDOUBTABLY come flooding out from the realm of the interwebs....brokeback mountain jokes about the Dallas Cowboys have been occuring for YEARS. If you suddenly see some please don't think it's directly because of Sam; mocking the Cowboys in every way possible is a long standing tradition in football

And it's one of the best traditions in football! One of the few things that's better than hating on the Washington team is hating on the Cowboys.
 
And it's one of the best traditions in football! One of the few things that's better than hating on the Washington team is hating on the Cowboys.

On a Skins forum I post on I actually said there was a tiny part of me that wanted us to pick him up if for no other reason than watching a bunch of the bleeding heart, wannabe political columnists, in the sports media have their heads explode while attempting to say something positive about the Redskins team
 
I haven't the professional training necessary to attempt an analysis of how you got that out of my comments.

I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the fact that some Canadian Football team thought that name " The Alloettes " was sufficient in nature to strike terror into the hearts of their enemies.
 
I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the fact that some Canadian Football team thought that name " The Alloettes " was sufficient in nature to strike terror into the hearts of their enemies.

Probably the same guy who thought up the Padres.
 
It's simple. Take yourself out of emotion and confusion and look at the post as if it is not yours:



You are CLEARLY equating institutionalized hate with sexual orientation.

If you cannot see that - your problem not mine.

In no way did I mention institutionalized hate let alone equate it with sexual orientation. I simply indicated that if sexual orientation is genetic, as most people now agree, then a particular male heterosexual's aversion to a homosexual male seeing him naked would be no different than a homosexual male's aversion to a heterosexual female seeing him naked. For the heterosexual male, another male potentially being sexually aroused by him would make him uncomfortable. For a homosexual male, a heterosexual female potentially being sexually aroused by him would also make him uncomfortable.

My comments had nothing to do with institutionalized anything - it was in response to Hiccup's comments about some individual men being uncomfortable with a homosexual male in their locker room environment. It followed up on my other comments indicating that such men simply need to get over themselves because just as not all women are attracted to all men, not all homosexual men are attracted to all men.

Your attempt to bastardize my comments and make them something they were not is totally your problem, not mine.
 
In no way did I mention institutionalized hate let alone equate it with sexual orientation.

You, you did. You claimed institutionalized homophobia means homosexuality is a choice.

Do you deny the existence of institutionalized homophobia?
 
I'm sorry, but I just can't get over the fact that some Canadian Football team thought that name " The Alloettes " was sufficient in nature to strike terror into the hearts of their enemies.

We used to have two teams with the name Rough Riders - let's not try to analyze CFL team names any further.
 
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