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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

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    My college does anything it can to ensure a quota of black students are admitted each year, yet most of the football players and vast majority of basketball players are black. I guess that's due to racism too or just maybe, it all starts with most high school players on down are black in part because, especially in city ghettos, they have little other career path to aim for.
    Nope, most high school players are White......but that's where the problem starts.....the Rivals 'star' rating system which will never promote a White RB or WR as a 'five star'. Jordy Nelson, who is a top five receiver in the NFL had to walk on at Kansas State.......as a safety. Wes Welker, the leading receiver in the NFL for five years, got a last minute D-1 offer at Texas Tech and wasn't even drafted by an NFL team.........Toby Gerhart, was given a two star 'fullback' rating coming out if high school even though he played RB in the California high school system and put up incredible rushing numbers. The only D-1 school to offer him a scholorship was White-friendly Stanford. He should have won the Heisman......see how all this works?

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

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    Awfully full of themselves to think every gay guy will be attracted to their 350 pound lineman fat ass.

    I've been saying all along, the nfl can afford shower curtains if it's such a big deal. According to all gay former players though, a huge number of their teammates and coaches just don't like homosexuals in any environment, and that's been the stumbling block.
    I agree....but even that is changing. The younger generation is much more comfortable and accepting. The homophobes are dying out....but just like there are still racists around....there always will be homophobes as well....just in smaller numbers.
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

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    I agree....but even that is changing. The younger generation is much more comfortable and accepting. The homophobes are dying out....but just like there are still racists around....there always will be homophobes as well....just in smaller numbers.
    If homosexuality has a sliver of genetic causality, then it follows that heterosexuals would have an defensive aversion to it. In fact I would posit that, in reality there are by far many more homophobes and always will be, than there are would-be, racists.


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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

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    right back at you, but you might want to pick a less bigoted poster to defend.
    See, this is where you and I are different. You're a slovenly ideological zealot that is mindlessly dedicated to pushing an agenda and an ideology above all else regardless of principle, intellectual honesty, reason, logic, or anything of the sort. You seek to argue and debate based on the prejudice and bigotry you hold within yourself as opposed to what people actually say. I debate based on actual logic, principles, and reality. I condemn Navy for things he says that are incorrect, ignorant, or hateful and I condemn those who make incorrect, ignorant, or hateful comments towards his arguments; because WHO the comments are targeting doesn't magically change what they mean.

    You like to debate based off your prejudices and bigotry. More power to you man. I prefer to debate based off what people actually say.

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    If a bunch of NFL players are in shower with penthouse models, i'm guessing sex, consented or otherwise, is going to follow. That's the difference.
    God I love this. So gay guys are 100% capable of completely turning off any switch in their mind when potentially showering with sexually attractive people of the sex they're attracted to, but straight men in a similar situation will turn into uncontrollable rape monster.

    For **** sake, you don't even TRY to be anywhere consistent with your asinine ignorant arguments do you?

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    God I love this. So gay guys are 100% capable of completely turning off any switch in their mind when potentially showering with sexually attractive people of the sex they're attracted to, but straight men in a similar situation will turn into uncontrollable rape monster.

    For **** sake, you don't even TRY to be anywhere consistent with your asinine ignorant arguments do you?
    "Uncontrollable Rape Monsters" would be an awesome name for a band.
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Since he told everyone he is gay the circus will follow him wherever he goes...
    He was not closeted to his team in college and was unlikely to be closeted going forward...the "circus" you speak of was going to occur regardless of what he did, it just depends on WHEN it happened and on whose terms. Unless you're suggestion was he should have permanently hidden his sexual orientation from everyone in his life until he was done with football.

    The players not what they say publicly and not ready to accept someone gay in the shower rooms nor should they have to.
    I'm glad you've apparently gain magical powers Navy and have the ability to read peoples minds to determine when they're lying....or you're just blatantly calling a bunch of players lying based on nothing but your own prejudices and an ignorant notion that everyone...including those decades younger than you and having grown up in a VERY different social environment...must all think EXACTLY like you.

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Uncontrollable Rape Monsters" would be an awesome name for a band.
    No it wouldn't.. ON any planet bro.


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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    He was not closeted to his team in college and was unlikely to be closeted going forward...the "circus" you speak of was going to occur regardless of what he did, it just depends on WHEN it happened and on whose terms. Unless you're suggestion was he should have permanently hidden his sexual orientation from everyone in his life until he was done with football.



    I'm glad you've apparently gain magical powers Navy and have the ability to read peoples minds to determine when they're lying....or you're just blatantly calling a bunch of players lying based on nothing but your own prejudices and an ignorant notion that everyone...including those decades younger than you and having grown up in a VERY different social environment...must all think EXACTLY like you.
    To be honest, there would statistically be quite a few I imagine. The NFL is not immune to political correctness, and the NFL has made themselves clear on the issue of tolerance. My guess is that although one would expect there to be no outburst's of gay-hate, there most certainly are those that are in that locker room and who completely despise the whole idea of showering with a gay man. That said, I think most of that hate would be from ignorance, some from experience, and some from a natural instinct to avoid that which they cannot compute. Either way, to say that, even if speculative, there are players that may act one way in front of a camera and feel quite the opposite in private would not be too much of a stretch.

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