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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    I'll just say this. I'm straight and I would LOVE to hit the showers with a bunch of strange women at a local gym, because that's what im attracted to. So logic tells me if someone is attracted to a certain sex (male) they're going to enjoy showering with them. That's like a guy being on a team of 50+ Penthouse models and then hearing the bad news that he has to shower with them!! Oh the horror!!! Oh and one more thing, when did you become the spokesman for the world of heterosexual males??
    Oh puh-lease......get real. Most guys gay or straight....don't look at gym showers for a sexual adventure. Sorry to bust your bubble. The reality is...the vast majority of guys at a gym, straight or gay....go to do their exercise, hit the showers and go on with their day. In today's world, people aren't overly concerned about it....despite all of the homophobes efforts to desperately cling onto this argument. What is the one argument that you always still hear from these guys..."oh....the showers!!!!!". Most of us just laugh at their ignorance.
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

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    That is priceless. Thanks for posting this.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    I'll just say this. I'm straight and I would LOVE to hit the showers with a bunch of strange women at a local gym, because that's what im attracted to. So logic tells me if someone is attracted to a certain sex (male) they're going to enjoy showering with them. That's like a guy being on a team of 50+ Penthouse models and then hearing the bad news that he has to shower with them!! Oh the horror!!! Oh and one more thing, when did you become the spokesman for the world of heterosexual males??
    Thanks for living up to the stereotype.
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    You have no empirical evidence backing up your false assertion. You are simply conjecturing based on a whim...
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Gringo allstar View Post
    And you prefer to shower with gay men, that's fine if that's what you're into, im not. While we are on the subject, is there anything else you would like to tell me that Im supposed to be OK with?? Also is this something you do frequently? Or only occasionally??
    You sound so frightened and vulnerable, my heart goes out to you. The thought seems to be causing you a great deal of distress.

    As to me, I'm not much in the habit of showering with men at all, since I don't belong to a gym or anything like that, but if I did, my every waking moment would not be spent in fear that they are gay. If they did happen to be gay, it wouldn't effect me so why worry about it?
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    NFL GMs also ask players if their mothers are hookers.

    Dolphins GM Ireland apologizes to Bryant for inappropriate question - NFL.com
    And you think i approve of that? Though now i suspect you might approve of both or deny there's any witch hunt. In any case, there are state and city laws it would be damn easy to prove they broke if a potential draft pick answered "no, i don't like girls" and didn't get picked. If they (other than the Rams obviously) want to persist in their discrimination and get sued like they so deserve, all good to me.

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    And you think i approve of that? Though now i suspect you might approve of both or deny there's any witch hunt. In any case, there are state and city laws it would be damn easy to prove they broke if a potential draft pick answered "no, i don't like girls" and didn't get picked. If they (other than the Rams obviously) want to persist in their discrimination and get sued like they so deserve, all good to me.
    There is no "witch hunt." Teams want to avoid the spectacle that the media (specifically ESPN) would make of it; they don't fear having a gay person on the team. Every one of these execs knows damn well there have been gay players in the past.

    I'm still not convinced he won't catch on a practice squad somewhere in the next few days/weeks.
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Blame the media. Ask if there's been anywhere near the coverage of Blunt smoking up compared to Sam. The simple fact is that law violations typically don't cause a major distraction unless it's a major player. If it's a major player, the benefits to keeping them often outweigh the negative distraction. Sam is t a major player, he's a marginal one, so that equation is naturally going to look different.
    And why does the media care? Oh, because Sam is the first player who sensed it was safe to come out in college/pro football. The depth of intolerance is for the most part *reflected by* the media's obsession, not caused by or manufactured by.

    Yes, ESPN crossed the line reporting on shower behavior. About the only thing we'll agree on

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Ludicrous and ridiculous. He was drafted in an entirely reasonable spot and there's no team in the nfl that would pass on him if they think he's worthy of a spot simply because he's gay. This is laughable and your desire to focus on preseason stats is just a continuation of your months long demonstration of your ignorance of football and your biased political based approach to this story.

    The problem with Sam is the same as it's been....he's an end of the roster guy at best currently who is average at what you need end of the roster guys to do, special teams. He showed well against second and third stringers (mostly third) which means little in regards to being worthy as a pass rushing specialist on an actual 53 man squad.

    None of which takes into account the quite reasonable decision front offices will need to make about the level of distraction bringing him in will cause for a likely practice squad talent, ala the ridiculous "shower" story.

    No team gives any more of a **** that Sam is gay than they cared that Tebow was an evangelical. They care that his football skills aren't worth having on the team on their own or possibly when weighed against the distraction he unfortunantly brings along with himself.
    Yeah this is redundant as hell, same exact discrimination apologist bs from the last thread i left. Have fun enabling that discrimination every time you tune in. You're exactly what the "front offices" want, when they ask totally inappropriate personal questions at the rookie interviews, so they can decide who to screw over.

    Half the NFL teams have 3-4 defense, they can be excused (assuming his special teams play isn't worth a spot). The Rams are stacked on DE and gave him a chance anyway, they can be excused. Most the other teams have no acceptable excuse.
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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    One, T'eo wasn't "outed".
    He most certainly was. He invented a girlfriend out of thin air then killed her off when suspicions were raised. He's gay period. So obvious the GMs started asking that "do you like girls" question that year. As for his "distraction," at least he caused part of it. Comparison to Tebow is absurd, since he was given serious playing time. Sam did absolutely nothing to justify any of this "distraction" excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    As to your ignorant opinion on people that you flat out admit to being based on prejudice as opposed to what they say, I don't care. You've shown the value and worth if your "insight" pretty clearly
    right back at you, but you might want to pick a less bigoted poster to defend. NP is notorious for obsessive gay bashing. If i cared what you thought i would simply go add up the # of threads he's made, then you can get back to us on how level headed he is about gay athletes.

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    Re: Michael Sam released by Rams

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    He most certainly was. He invented a girlfriend out of thin air then killed her off when suspicions were raised. He's gay period.
    Te'o didn't "invent a girlfriend out of thin air." Te'o got catfished.
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