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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I would like to see proof that Russia invaded Ukraine. Not proof presented by Kiev. Sat photos with correct time stamps and showing vehicles in Russia and then in Ukraine. Once again for clarity. Time/date stamped. You know the USA has a gaggle of sats over Ukraine. It shouldn't present you any problem. There were 20,000 troops in Crimea by previous agreeement when all this occurred. Notice that Crimea has political and social stability with no bloodshed.
    Russia did it how Russia does. Facilitate unrest in the nation to be invaded. Have the locals ask for help. Come in to help. Right out of the cold war. I have seen videos where prisoners captured by Ukraine claim to be Russian, but then again they are Ukrainian.

    There was bloodshed in Crimea, just less now. Good luck supporting Russia.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    An ACORN community organizer cum rock star against a thug who for the first time since the Kruschev era is bragging on his nuclear weapons arsenal after having invaded the Ukraine, something Obama said he would not tolerate.

    Instead of looking like the famous battle of the OK Coral it more resembles something from Blazing Saddles.
    Exactly. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so serious. Watching a KGB thug have his way with ANY POTUS is unsettling. This is what we get when we elect democrats.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    I don't even understand how this is a left or right issue. War with Russia needs to be avoided, period. Let them dig up their own backyard. They aren't anywhere close to ours.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    An ACORN community organizer cum rock star against a thug who for the first time since the Kruschev era is bragging on his nuclear weapons arsenal after having invaded the Ukraine, something Obama said he would not tolerate.

    Instead of looking like the famous battle of the OK Coral it more resembles something from Blazing Saddles.
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Like Putin hasn't with impunity!
    What NATO country has Putin invaded?

    I can understand some posters from others countries have no respect for our CIC but I find it shameful that Americans are lining up to verbally sodomize their president.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    He'll probably just jerk-off...lol!
    And what would an apdst do?
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Being Canadian, allow me a hockey metaphor.

    I have seen this many times, while playing, officiating and just watching. A new 'star" comes along and as is usual shows talent early and is advanced up the spectrum. He will soon find himself at 13, playing against 18 year olds.

    Because he has heard for years he has such great gifts, be it stick handling, speed, a cannon of a slap shot or just a combination of all of it as well as size.

    In the junior leagues he is now not so much the star, the game has changed, his moves no longer work, his opponents have experience, cunning and learned strategy; he finds himself stapled to the ice or boards a lot, his shots easily turned away by experienced goal tenders.

    He does not realize he is, frankly, out of his league. He presses harder, faster, taking more risks, believing his own myth in the wake of mounting evidence he is, at this level a very average player, convinced he is the next Gretzski.

    As all metaphors do, it breaks down there as the hockey player merely gets benched. But as Obama presses harder and takes more risk against a far more experienced and cunning opponent, Americans and the world must realize that the rookie star's failure could be WWIII
    Don't look now but your distain for the U.S. is showing again. I know of a lot finer examples of Canadians that not only travel to the U.S., but find spending the winter in Florida a lot more interesting than podunk Canada.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    Obama would do nothing except give a blustering speech, maybe send weapons to neighboring states. But he would not engage russia in open conflict.

    Putin has obamas number. I cant recall a time in history when we appeared so insignificant.
    LOL In your mind we are insignificant because we don't have a blustering lunatic saying "bring it on". What would you have the President do? Threaten a nuclear holocaust? Bush did absolutely nothing when Putin invaded Georgia so you can't think he was better.
    You don't think Putin is blustering? If not he is certainly suicidal and should be committed. We are not going to have a NUCLEAR WAR over Ukraine. Which major national leader would engage Russia in open combat? I hope no one and certainly not the US. Putin has bet his political life on a losing cause and Obama has got him where he wants him. This will not turn out the way you are hoping, your hero is going down.

    Here is some interesting stuff from another of your hero's regarding Putins invasion of Georgia in 2008. It appears that when a Republican is in office Putin is no longer a threat or a bully and doing nothing is the "manly" thing to do.

    Charles Krauthammer announced on August 8, 2008, as Russian fleets advanced into the Black Sea and Russian jets launched raids targeting government buildings in Georgia. "What they are doing here is reasserting control of this province. And when it's done, which will probably happen in a couple days, the firing will crease."

    Three days later, Krauthammer insisted there was nothing for the United States to do as the crisis escalated: "Well, obviously it's beyond our control. The Russians are advancing. There is nothing that will stop them. We are not going to go to war over Georgia." Krauthammer's Fox colleague Jeff Birnbaum, agreed: "Because Georgia is not part of NATO, there's really no danger the United States or Europe will get in involved in what is really a civil war almost between--within this small part of Georgia."
    If that doesn't make the U.S. sound insignificant I don't know what does. Obama is coordinating sanctions that are crippling the Russian economy and more will be coming soon. That is far more than Bush ever thought of doing in 2008
    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/03...ade-fox/198322
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    NATO is not his red line.

    I agree that he should not be using red line rhetoric with Russia though. It's a fight we can't win.
    1st rule in war time diplomacy... You don't go around saying stuff like: "It's a fight we can't win." or "he should not be using red line rhetoric with Russia."

    Yes, I know, BHO has sent all the wrong signals for years. And yes, I know that he has NO credibility at this point, but he will have to start acting like the leader of the free world at some point. Even if it flies in the face of his political rhetoric and progressive agenda.



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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Exactly. It would almost be funny if it wasn't so serious. Watching a KGB thug have his way with ANY POTUS is unsettling. This is what we get when we elect democrats.
    I would say this is what you get when you elect idiots who want rock star status with no clue as how to how to manage an outhouse.

    With that, it does seem you elect more Democrat lamp posts than Republican, and where I abhor a lot of what the Republican Party stands for, they get things done and are for the most part better economically for Canada, Bush's illegal war against our softwood lumber industry notwithstanding and yes I am aware that ball started rolling early in the Clinton administration.


    This walking teleprompter, like Carter, blew it all and now I see a headline I hoped I would never see in the Vancouver Sun "Defiant Putin Rattles Nuclear Sabre at West". And like Cater supporters who swore there was no way of getting those hostages out, Obama's loyal till death apostles are steadfast that they have Putin shaking in his boots, while he has just successfully completed the first annexation of land in eastern Europe since Stalin as well as a full scale invasion of east Ukraine.

    He warned Obama's much more war ready predecessor Bush, that he would "tear her apart" should the US try anything in Ukraine. He did and Putin is living up to his word and declaring himself the winner while standing alone in the ring
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