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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    President Barack Obama's message to Russian president Vladimir Putin when traveling to Europe next week is to not "even think about messing around" with the Baltic states, the White House said Friday.

    Read the article here: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-...214107060.html

    What Obama is telling Putin is that Article 5 of the NATO Treaty means that if it messes with the Baltic states or any other member of NATO it will be messing with NATO, including the USA.


    Given the near complete lack of any sort of credibility that Obama has on the international stage, yeah, this'll have some weight. (*sarcasm*)
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    OHHHHH...you meant outright invasion!

    I thought you said "messin' around"


    That's OK, you play this change the topic game all the time...covers a lot of ignorance on any topic.

    Mr. Putin has NATO - No Action Talk Only - quaking in its boots because they have no support or ready response to his aggression in Ukraine


    And please avail yourself of the history, I am not here to do your homework



    Right. That hasn't happened and likely won't happen because the end result could be WWIII with Nukes. I don't believe that Putin wants to kick that off.

    He's just trying to grab some low-hanging fruit.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Awesome.......another red line.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post


    Given the near complete lack of any sort of credibility that Obama has on the international stage, yeah, this'll have some weight.
    (*sarcasm*)


    Which NATO country do you expect Putin to invade first?

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectStorm View Post
    Awesome,,,another red line.
    this one is based on the nato treaty.
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    President Barack Obama's message to Russian president Vladimir Putin when traveling to Europe next week is to not "even think about messing around" with the Baltic states, the White House said Friday.

    Read the article here: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-...214107060.html

    What Obama is telling Putin is that Article 5 of the NATO Treaty means that if it messes with the Baltic states or any other member of NATO it will be messing with NATO, including the USA.
    If Obama and NATO were serious, and I wish they were, they would be amassing significant forces and equipment in Belarus as he speaks - his words have been proven to be empty rhetoric and embarrassing. What ever happened to "speak softly, and carry a big stick"?

    With Obama abandoning Eastern Europe by dropping the missile shield and with no obvious buildup of forces, just what is the "or else" part of this empty threat supposed to involve? Putin can't fly to NYC anymore?
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If Obama and NATO were serious, and I wish they were, they would be amassing significant forces and equipment in Belarus as he speaks - his words have been proven to be empty rhetoric and embarrassing. What ever happened to "speak softly, and carry a big stick"?

    With Obama abandoning Eastern Europe by dropping the missile shield and with no obvious buildup of forces, just what is the "or else" part of this empty threat supposed to involve? Putin can't fly to NYC anymore?
    what the heck does belarus have to do with anything?

    Besides, belarus is in russia's pocket so why should we expect the only remaining dictatorship in europe to cooperate?
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If Obama and NATO were serious, and I wish they were, they would be amassing significant forces and equipment in Belarus as he speaks
    - his words have been proven to be empty rhetoric and embarrassing. What ever happened to "speak softly, and carry a big stick"?

    With Obama abandoning Eastern Europe by dropping the missile shield and with no obvious buildup of forces, just what is the "or else" part of this empty threat supposed to involve? Putin can't fly to NYC anymore?


    Belarus?

    You need to do a little research. Belarus is in Putins hip pocket.

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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    My apologies to both Unitedwestand and Shrubnose - you're absolutely right. I was thinking of the Baltic Sea NATO states that could be used to marshall resources and be less confrontational than resources in Poland or Ukraine itself yet be close enough to imply business. My point being that if you are going to make a threat you have to actually have resources in place to implement the "or else". If not, Russia could own much if not all of Ukraine as they did with Crimea before NATO and the US could get in the game.
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    Re: WHITE HOUSE TO PUTIN Don't 'Even Think About Messing Around' With The Baltics

    I think you guys in USA are taking it too slightly. If a NATO member is attacked then it becomes larger than every other countries' president. We just retaliate, wherever it may go.
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