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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    What exactly about the regulations are unreasonable?
    If you have to ask you can't possibly understand.

    It's hardly the states fault that the majority of abortion clinics have chosen to operate like back alleys with roofs
    And the reason you would not understand is because you clearly are clueless about the issue.

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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I hope all laws limiting access to abortion are able to stand, if we can't outright make it illegal then it needs to be impossible to obtain by any means. One of the greatest evils in our society needs to be stopped.
    Are you going to hold your breath?

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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Are you going to hold your breath?
    Not really, it will happen eventually but probably not until after SSM is nationally legal.
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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Not really, it will happen eventually but probably not until after SSM is nationally legal.
    What makes you believe that it will happen? If history is an indicator, any and all things points away from your hopes.
    Hopes were high among some that SSM will never happen either.

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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Perry didnt abuse his power. Sorry, but its a joke, and i think support for perry will increase because of it.

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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by year2late View Post
    Can you show a trend in severe complications necessitating such restrictive laws?

    I mean we can have laws that say all surgery needs to take place in a full service hospital with inpatient and ER facilities.....can you tell me the effect of such laws?

    Makes the procedures with excellent safety profiles VERY expensive and less accessible to those in rural areas. Hey....sounds familiar!
    Like it or not, abortion IS a surgical procedure. ANY other type of clinic doing surgical procedures have to follow the same standards including having admitting privileges at a local hospital. There doesn't need to be a trend, a trend doesn't say crap when we're dealing with individual surgeries. What you're saying is that outliers don't matter, they can just go ahead and die if their surgery goes wrong because they don't fit the trend.

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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I hope all laws limiting access to abortion are able to stand, if we can't outright make it illegal then it needs to be impossible to obtain by any means. One of the greatest evils in our society needs to be stopped.
    I know that is not the reasoning of the Texas Legislature, Governor Rick Perry, or Attorney General Greg Abbott when they cooked up this scheme...at least that is what they told Texans.

    They are all about safety, not blocking a woman's constitutional right to have an abortion. You do believe the Governor don't you?


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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I know that is not the reasoning of the Texas Legislature, Governor Rick Perry, or Attorney General Greg Abbott when they cooked up this scheme...at least that is what they told Texans.

    They are all about safety, not blocking a woman's constitutional right to have an abortion. You do believe the Governor don't you?
    The goal may be safety, and it appears the issue addresses that. But honestly I'd have no problem if they said "we did it to close down clinics and make abortion harder to obtain." I would be totally fine with that and support them on that. Abortion is like slavery and it must be stopped, it's the national evil of our time and it's very unfortunate that the law and so many people in our nation support such a thing. If it can't be banned outright then regulate it out of existence.
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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Like it or not, abortion IS a surgical procedure. ANY other type of clinic doing surgical procedures have to follow the same standards including having admitting privileges at a local hospital. There doesn't need to be a trend, a trend doesn't say crap when we're dealing with individual surgeries. What you're saying is that outliers don't matter, they can just go ahead and die if their surgery goes wrong because they don't fit the trend.
    That is not correct... and no one has shown the Texas state statute or regulation in which a medical procedure has to be done by a physician with admitting privileges to a hospital.

    If this were true...why the need to incorporate it into law?


    Any patient of either a doctor or dentist will be seen at a hospital on a emergency case regardless if the clinic physician has HP or not.

    If it is determined that the patient needs further hospital stay...that order can come from the patients regular doctor or the ER doctor.


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    Re: Federal Judge Halts Key Part of Texas Abortion Law...

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    The goal may be safety, and it appears the issue addresses that. But honestly I'd have no problem if they said "we did it to close down clinics and make abortion harder to obtain." I would be totally fine with that and support them on that. Abortion is like slavery and it must be stopped, it's the national evil of our time and it's very unfortunate that the law and so many people in our nation support such a thing. If it can't be banned outright then regulate it out of existence.
    Your beliefs are fine...and you can work to over-turn Roe v Wade...but in this country, No government... local, state , or federal can write laws restricting a right. Even if you don't like the right.


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