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That would certainly contribute to a better understanding but it's difficult to find any pro-western propaganda even in the west.

It would come largely in the form of humanitarian aid and cultural exchange.
 
It would come largely in the form of humanitarian aid and cultural exchange.
With journalists and Christians being murdered and beheaded, as well as stringent entry rules to many of these countries, there might not be as many volunteer citizens available to exchange much of their culture. And as we have seen on many occasions, religion trumps culture. We've already given a great deal of humanitarian aid and often lost lives as a consequence.
 
That would quite possibly answer all parties concerns, and tell the sympathisers of IS, your country is over there, go practice sharia until the cows come home, DO NOT step one foot outside of those borders and attempt to force it upon anyone else or it won't be nothin nice. But then that would cut Halliburton, KBR and all our defense contractors out of their much needed jobs.
How can you possibly prevent ISL from going anywhere?
 
With journalists and Christians being murdered and beheaded, as well as stringent entry rules to many of these countries, there might not be as many volunteer citizens available to exchange much of their culture. And as we have seen on many occasions, religion trumps culture. We've already given a great deal of humanitarian aid and often lost lives as a consequence.

Yeah, there'd be short term losses, it'sbwhat has to be done to make the long term gains. Religion doesn't trump everything, bit it's a good excuse and so long as we remain closed to each other, it can dominate. The west has been fighting in the ME for over 6 decades now, blowing things up and killing folk. You can't expect it to turn around on a dime.
 
Yeah, there'd be short term losses, it'sbwhat has to be done to make the long term gains. Religion doesn't trump everything, bit it's a good excuse and so long as we remain closed to each other, it can dominate. The west has been fighting in the ME for over 6 decades now, blowing things up and killing folk. You can't expect it to turn around on a dime.
The west has had an open border policy for a number of years, with limited restrictions, but this policy has not been reciprocated by many Islamic nations and, when it is, there is a risk to human life. Of course it is easy for me to make light of your suggestion while not offering one of my own, which is a cheap way to get a point.

I would say that was part of the role of the military both in Iraq and Afghanistan.

I think we first have to start telling the truth about the the dangers of Islam without concern of offending those Muslims who just want to get along. Until we open up and do that then we're all dancing in shadows.
 
How can you possibly prevent ISL from going anywhere?

I can tell you how it starts. Don't create environments that they become the beneficiaries of in the first place. But you've heard this all before. You're not pro American, as I once charged, on further observation, you're pro GOP and anti Democratic Party, or, a true partisan.
 
I can tell you how it starts. Don't create environments that they become the beneficiaries of in the first place. But you've heard this all before. You're not pro American, as I once charged, on further observation, you're pro GOP and anti Democratic Party, or, a true partisan.

These labels are helpful to you, are they?

If a republican was in office then you might hear complaints about that policy but now there is an incompetent democrat in office, a danger to millions of people, so I'll criticize him and his supporters. That would seem to be the natural thing to do, no?


The problems have already started so what went wrong is rather beside the point now.
 
These labels are helpful to you, are they?

If a republican was in office then you might hear complaints about that policy but now there is an incompetent democrat in office, a danger to millions of people, so I'll criticize him and his supporters. That would seem to be the natural thing to do, no?

The problems have already started so what went wrong is rather beside the point now.

You'll likely have the opportunity next time around to prove you're not a GOPer partisan.
 
That would quite possibly answer all parties concerns, and tell the sympathisers of IS, your country is over there, go practice sharia until the cows come home, DO NOT step one foot outside of those borders and attempt to force it upon anyone else or it won't be nothin nice. But then that would cut Halliburton, KBR and all our defense contractors out of their much needed jobs.
except that none of the countries could be controlled by ISIS or Al Qaeda, or any such entity as they could be counted on to step outside of their borders.
 
except that none of the countries could be controlled by ISIS or Al Qaeda, or any such entity as they could be counted on to step outside of their borders.

Perhaps, but they would be at that point all in one spot, easier to target without harming others as isn't the case presently. Also Ditto, it was an attempt to find common ground with another poster more so then a absolute remedy to the problem that exists right now. Prevention was a whole lot easier to articulate then cure at this point.
 
Yeah, there'd be short term losses, it'sbwhat has to be done to make the long term gains. Religion doesn't trump everything, bit it's a good excuse and so long as we remain closed to each other, it can dominate. The west has been fighting in the ME for over 6 decades now, blowing things up and killing folk. You can't expect it to turn around on a dime.
It's also Muslims who have also been fighting each other in the Middle East and elsewhere, who have been after the Jews and are now, as in the past, turning on Christians.

It seems clear that people living in the democracies do now want war, just as most people in the Middle East would not want one either if they were given the choice. But they do not have the option, like us, to say no. I doubt many Muslims voted for ISL but Muslim and non-Muslim alike are stuck with them and they have to be dealt with. Mid East leaders appear to understand this also.
 
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