Is it was a gaffe barrack Obama made the same one. And you can read what Hillary had to say as well.
Obama Announces Complete Withdrawal of U.S. Forces From Iraq by End of 2011 | Fox News
Do you understand what that referred to?
Now, about the ambassador issue, both accounts have her saying this:
It doesn't matter what an Ambassador said if Iraq was as stable as you said it was during Saddam's dictatorship.
1. Politicians say stuff for political gain: no kidding! Who would have thought?
2. Mission Accomplished - yeah, I'm familiar with the excuses GOP apologists have proposed ("it was just that ship that had accomplished its mission, Bush was only trying to praise our brave soldiers and sailors," etc.). Still, it was a big, big, big gaffe and blunder. There's no denying it.
3. Don't be disingenuous. I said, Iraq was stable regarding terrorism against us. They were actually sort of friendly toward us (in a sort of opportunistic way, of course, since we were helping them - but they definitely weren't against us at the time). There was no terrorist threat from Iraq toward the United States at the time. Really stable as in no dictator, no skirmishes with neighbors, no sects waiting for the first opportunity to kill each other? Of course not! I said from the beginning, the Middle East is a centuries-long mess. There's not a single really stable country there (don't think that Saudi Arabia and the Emirates are stable - they are just better at repressing any opposition). But as far as *we* are concerned, the situation was stable enough and there were no anti-American terrorists there in Iraq, whatsoever, before the first Gulf war, and actually before the second one too. Al Qaeda in Iraq didn't exist. ISIS didn't exist. No sponsorship of anti-American terrorism existed. No link with 9/11. No nothing. That's a historical fact. Get informed. By the way, your definition of "Iraq was stable after Bush" is the same situation. Stable, my a$$. Full of sects vying for power. Do you call a powder barrel waiting for a lighted match in order to explode, stable? If you think that Iraq was stable before Obama, then you must also acknowledge that by that standard it was also "stable" before the first Bush.
You know, it's not that I like Putin at all... but in one thing, he was right. In a debate on Russian TV a few months ago, he said "I don't understand the Americans. They complain that some of these Arab countries have dictators. Then they want to bring down the dictators [I should add, the same ones we had been propping up, before], and what do they leave behind? Chaos."
I mean, these Arab countries are only relatively stable under dictators. Remove them (from Iraq, from Libya, from Syria, from Egypt) and what you have is a huge mess with thriving jihadists and anti-Western terrorists. I'd rather have the dictators.
I'm not a naive leftist who thinks democracy is the ultimate goal. I'm very pragmatic. I think PRIMARILY AND ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY about the national interest of my country, the United States. If it's good for us to have some dictators there in nations that have been under dictators for centuries and have no concept of democracy, so be it; I couldn't care less.
This is one of the reasons why I'm against Obama's foreign policy: too naive and idealist. It's a tough world out there. I only really care for what is good for the United States.
I'm slightly liberal, I said. Yes, I am, in terms of some domestic issues. In international issues and foreign policies many of my positions - which I call pragmatic - would be called right wing.
Look, leftists everywhere were delighted when the Ayatollah Khomeini brought down Shah Rheza Pahlevi (spelling?). I was living in France at the time, and people there were ecstatic, and leftist newspaper Liberation was full of praise for the good cleric who would rid the Iranian people of the nasty dictator Pahlevi. Yeah, right. We now know how that turned out.
No, democracy is not for the Middle East. What these countries need is a strong central regime. Maybe a few centuries from today they'll embrace democracy. Don't hold your breath, though. It's not happening anytime soon. These countries are still stuck in the Middle Age and will take centuries to evolve.
EVERYONE needs to cease the personal attacks and the incivility or violations will be issued.
