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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Or would have handled the post war strategy differently.

    There is a battle going on, once again, between good evil in this war weary world and again I support the US and their Allies in their efforts. But damn, there are times when they can be exasperating.

    I would've pulled the troops out, eventually. There was no way of knowing what would happen with 100% certainty.

    Unfortunately, the longer we wait, the stronger ISIS will become.

    Evil vs Good? And we're good? I don't see things in those terms. It's a battle of ideologies and I prefer the Western version.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I Obama just wants to keep Americans out of another war. This is why that crossing of red line in the sand a year or so ago was ignored.This is why only token sanctions were imposed on Russia over Ukraine despite those like John McCain and other cock sucking neocons with their lips firmly wrapped around the cocks of the military industrial complex practically screaming for war or how we got to arm this group or that group.
    Actually Jamesrage, it wasn't ignored, he gets the bad rap on that for declaring a red line, and that's it. He has been there all along covertly. Sorry to be redundant but, three times Hillary was sent to the UN, and all three times Russia and China denied the requested resolution for use of force. The UK parliament pulled British support for any use of force, you may recall that Obama failed to secure any congressional approval as well, and then there was that 70% of Americans unwilling to engage our military.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Makes sense to me. You whack Isis and it's to Assad's advantage. You whack Assad and it's to Isis' aadvantage.

    No quick fixes here.

    What does make sense is to let them keep killing each other off in Syria which is to our advantage.

    Obama unlike Dumbya actually think things through and the long range implications.
    Yeah... No, I'm not going for him being brilliant here, since he has never been before. More of a deer in the headlights, that's one he has done a lot of.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    He has a plan: not really getting involved, which is supported by a war tired American populace.

    I'm not sure why you think America needs to be the world police, running into every conflict with a direct action "plan", but that's not our ****ing jobs. Why don't we focus on rebuilding America before we try to force democracy on another country that doesn't want it?
    And where did I say anything about being the world police? I'm not sure why you think I think that. But for the record, staying out of it would be a plan. He was specific. He has no plan.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    That the right hates Obama? Are you kidding?

    Pray tell, what is your strategy for ISIS in Syria?

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    That's airstrikes. That's not really getting involved. We do air strikes all over the place, like Yemen.

    Seeing as how that's kind of Obama's plan, what is your issue with it? How is that not a plan? You could possibly argue it's a bad plan, but not that it's no plan.



    Oh, well please, tell me how the past 10 years of American military presence has improved the situation in the Iraq/Syria region.
    Well, first...out of the last 10 years, how many of those have we had troops in Iraq or Syria? Second, how has not having troops in Iraq or Syria improved anything? Lastly, if you think airstrikes is not "getting involved" then you are delusional.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    "Staying the **** out of it" IS a plan, and it's the plan most Americans want.
    So we just ignore the problem and hope it goes away? If only life were that easy.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, first...out of the last 10 years, how many of those have we had troops in Iraq or Syria? Second, how has not having troops in Iraq or Syria improved anything? Lastly, if you think airstrikes is not "getting involved" then you are delusional.
    Out of the last 10 years? We were in Iraq from 2003 to 2011. How did that help us? Why should we go right back in where we left off? How long do you want us there? 20? 30 years?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    So we just ignore the problem and hope it goes away? If only life were that easy.
    You know, I haven't heard jack **** from any of you regarding what YOU would actually do. We're focusing on air strikes and paramilitary raids, we don't need ground forces. The Iraqi and Syrian people have to decide for themselves that they don't want to tolerate extremism, we can't force it on them, we've tried.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps that explains their ineffectiveness.

    Obama has already said he doesn't have a plan, which leaves little room for debate.
    We're using air strikes and not committing ground troops. How is that not a plan? Are you denying there are air strikes? I could understand you not liking the plan, but claiming there isn't one is ignoring reality.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The next president will be a four year president. He is going to inherit a **** storm and it will age him into a 1 term president.
    Unless the next President has a sympathetic press. I mean, the current President inhereted a bad situation, and somehow managed to make it even worse, and enjoyed a wide margin in his re-election.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    It's easy to criticize. Any armchair general can do it. I notice you have no solutions. Typical. .
    Remember, partisan hack-jobs are partisan hack-jobs because they can only complain. They have no solutions. Zyphlin will offer a viable alternative. No one calls him a partisan hack-job.

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