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    Re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No reason to have mentioned them. Are you a supporter?
    You brought up Iraq's leadership. I guess you're unaware that the country was run by the Baath Party, which Bush eliminated, after plunging the nation into chaos.

    But hey, don't let me interfere with your expressions of historical ignorance. Just try not to blame Obama too much for conservative foreign policy fiascos.

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    Re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    You brought up Iraq's leadership. I guess you're unaware that the country was run by the Baath Party, which Bush eliminated, after plunging the nation into chaos.

    But hey, don't let me interfere with your expressions of historical ignorance. Just try not to blame Obama too much for conservative foreign policy fiascos.
    And de-bathification led to the current crisis we see now in Iraq.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    You brought up Iraq's leadership. I guess you're unaware that the country was run by the Baath Party, which Bush eliminated, after plunging the nation into chaos.

    But hey, don't let me interfere with your expressions of historical ignorance. Just try not to blame Obama too much for conservative foreign policy fiascos.

    The roots of the most recent crisis in Iraq can be traced to the US-led invasion of 2003 and western meddling in Syria. At stake, is the neoliberal blueprint of post-invasion Iraq, now defended in an effort coordinated between the Baghdad government and its western backers.

    What today is ISIS, the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), was founded as an Al-Qaida´s franchise in Iraq in direct response to the US-led invasion. The group thrived in the security vacuum the invaders created by dismantling the Iraqi security apparatus. At the time, Amnesty International criticized the US for not sufficiently investing in the security of civilians, while guarding oil fields around the clock. Needless to say, oil was the primary motive behind the invasion.

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/arab-a...itical-economy
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    IMO, stop removing stabilising forces like Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad! But that's only been pointed out endlessly.
    So your solution is to allow murdering dictators to stay in power?

    BTW: We didn't remove Mubarak. The Egyptians did that on their own. And then they also removed the Muslim Brotherhood when they started getting tyrannical.

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    Re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    You brought up Iraq's leadership. I guess you're unaware that the country was run by the Baath Party, which Bush eliminated, after plunging the nation into chaos.

    But hey, don't let me interfere with your expressions of historical ignorance. Just try not to blame Obama too much for conservative foreign policy fiascos.
    Absolute nonsense.

    Isis is marching through Iraq NOW because they can. Because Obama politicized the Iraq war and like a idiot pulled every out American forces.

    That decision wasn't made by a Conservative, it was made by a guy who got elected based on empty platitudes and bumper sticker slogans.

    All they needed was a opportunity and thats what obama gave them. Same thing goes in Lybia.
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    " Return to Power By Any Means Necessary "

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    So your solution is to allow murdering dictators to stay in power?

    BTW: We didn't remove Mubarak. The Egyptians did that on their own. And then they also removed the Muslim Brotherhood when they started getting tyrannical.
    Recall how Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood. This certainly upset the Egyptian people at the time, and caused their country many lives lost. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/23/op...hood.html?_r=0

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    So your solution is to allow murdering dictators to stay in power?

    BTW: We didn't remove Mubarak. The Egyptians did that on their own. And then they also removed the Muslim Brotherhood when they started getting tyrannical.
    The US certainly stood back and watched at least, while supporting MB and yes, The strong arms known as Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad gave no quarter to militant Islamists which now have the ME inflamed, again dude, turn off Fox News and go to Al Jazeera which is presenting the real Libya!! STOP THE ****ING INSANITY!
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Recall how Obama supported the Muslim Brotherhood. This certainly upset the Egyptian people at the time, and caused their country many lives lost. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/23/op...hood.html?_r=0
    That's right, he did support the MB in Egypt, al Qaeda in Libya/Syria and as such these militant Islamists are stronger. It was only yesterday that Rand Paul was pointing out that Obama was supporting ISIS in Syria, now he can't wait to be CiC so he can go destroy them militarily.
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    Re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by FaceofBachmann View Post
    You brought up Iraq's leadership. I guess you're unaware that the country was run by the Baath Party, which Bush eliminated, after plunging the nation into chaos.
    He captured Saddam Hussein, leader of the Baath party, who was then tried by the Iraqi courts. Sadly for his supporters, they found him guilty of crimes against humanity and he was hanged. You must miss him a lot.

    But hey, don't let me interfere with your expressions of historical ignorance. Just try not to blame Obama too much for conservative foreign policy fiascos.
    Perhaps you can explain how Obama's mismanagement of the US economy relates to Syria or Iraq.

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    Re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He captured Saddam Hussein, leader of the Baath party, who was then tried by the Iraqi courts. Sadly for his supporters, they found him guilty of crimes against humanity and he was hanged. You must miss him a lot.
    Keep diverting. Who eliminated the Baath party and left Iraq in sectarian chaos?


    Perhaps you can explain how Obama's mismanagement of the US economy relates to Syria or Iraq.
    Imagine a Bush supporter talking about mismanaged economies.

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