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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    ... a completely failed foreign policy?
    It was far better than the one we have now, so, what does that make this one?
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The world awaits your next masterpiece of prose and theory.
    Well I am a professional writer. :-) How about you?

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    We didn't interfere. We stayed clear because the alternatives were't good either, much to the consternation of war mongers like McCain and Lindsey Graham. At least we got the chemical weapons destroyed.

    I could easily make the case that Russia meddled more than we did as they supported the Assad regime.
    President Assad NEEDS to be supported, unless you too think that Syria is a prettier place without him in control of the country. And yes, covertly, the US has been involved in Syria. Not to McCain/Graham standards no.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think they have plans just nothing that the President is willing to approve of as being acceptable right now.
    Yeah, I think they're moving things around right now and don't want to telegraph their punch.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think they have plans just nothing that the President is willing to approve of as being acceptable right now.
    So the proper, reasoned response would have been "we are working on several scenarios at this point in time, none of which are currently actionable as we speak".
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Well I am a professional writer. :-) How about you?
    I'm a professional reader - let me know when something worth reading pops up.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Interesting world you live in...In that "change" Obama promised five and a half long, lean and leery years ago, where were tanks in the streets, terrorists in every K-Mart, constant war, a re-invasion of Iraq, a completely failed foreign policy?
    Perhaps you can make this sentence more specific and coherent.
    If what the US has on it's plate is what Obama meant by "change" where in God's name is the hope?
    He might have sincerely believed there was Hope. Obama was sold on what he learned in high school, feeling like many cocky teenagers that he could genuinely change the world with just a few platitudes and a display of good will. It's reflective of his 'peace and love' generation of teachers.
    Two: No one ordered, commanded, asked, nor even wanted the Us to be "the leader of the free world", it was a title bestowed in itself by itself, and has become old, weary and wrong. I contend that if the US withdrew, built a wall around itself in typical paranoid fashion, the world would be a better place. You've been creating terrorists in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq long enough.
    The US became leader of the Free World during WWII when the British couldn't handle the problems on their own. The transfer was seamless. They were the Superpower against Communism, and proved to be successful. Granted, the United States never wanted this status but it was thrust upon them by events, and they are stuck with it. The question is, what do they do now? They can't say they resign, or blame it all on George Bush and move on. There is a reality out there waiting to be met, one way or another. It would be wise to have a strategy in place, or several of them depending on changing circumstances. That, until six years ago anyway, was a generally accepted role of government.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    To be fair to Barrack Obama he was also doing a great deal of fund raising as well.
    And still wired in 24/7. It's all part of being a president. And you two make it sound like it's a new thing.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I'm a professional reader - let me know when something worth reading pops up.
    I'll check when I'm done reading your posts.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Makes sense to me. You whack Isis and it's to Assad's advantage. You whack Assad and it's to Isis' aadvantage. No quick fixes here. What does make sense is to let them keep killing each other off in Syria which is to our advantage. Obama unlike Dumbya actually think things through and the long range implications.
    In fact what you are saying runs contrary to what Obama said. Who should we believe?

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