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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Americans are tired of war and want peace but 'Superpower' status, and 'Leader of the Free World' status, means they either inherit those responsibilities or transfer them elsewhere, much like the British did. But now there is no one to transfer them to. Their enemies are not going to end a war simply because polls show Americans are tired of it, or that they can be placated because BHO admitted to some American mistakes, has a Muslim background, or was a left wing sympathizer in college. What the Nobel Committee saw as strengths were not shared by the realpolitik players.

    I can see a further exodus from the United States by wealthier Americans who have become frustrated with both their domestic and international policies. The change Obama promised has now begun to arrive.
    Interesting world you live in...

    In that "change" Obama promised five and a half long, lean and leery years ago, where were tanks in the streets, terrorists in every K-Mart, constant war, a re-invasion of Iraq, a completely failed foreign policy?


    If what the US has on it's plate is what Obama meant by "change" where in God's name is the hope?

    Two:

    No one ordered, commanded, asked, nor even wanted the Us to be "the leader of the free world", it was a title bestowed in itself by itself, and has become old, weary and wrong. I contend that if the US withdrew, built a wall around itself in typical paranoid fashion, the world would be a better place. You've been creating terrorists in Afghanistan, Libya and Iraq long enough.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He or she will have a helluva job cut out for them, that's for sure. It will not be the same America after Obama's remaining years, or the same world.
    I said the same about Dumbya.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Mini-bomb? I used to load those so called "mini-bombs' on jet aircraft. I guarantee you don't want to be with 100 yds. of your so called 500 lb. mini-bombs. I don't give a **** how fanatic ISSI is, that's enough to literally scare the sheet out of you let alone send your body parts in all directions.
    And you feel they were effective in discouraging international terrorism?

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    As one who has seldom, if ever, supported Obama, I must here.

    Congrats, a president that admits to what every other president in recent history has neglected to mention....attack first, plan later.

    Look, you were in Vietnam how long? What was the plan there when the US rejected please from Ho Chi Minh for help and attacked him instead? What was the "plan" in the second Iraq war? That one sure worked...fire everyone with a gun, kick them out of a job and expect them to line the streets waving home made flags?

    What IS the plan in Afghanistan, besides killing every living thing you see? If there is one, can someone point to what that looks like?

    He got honest for once in his administration....must be something in the water
    Good afternoon F&L - morning in your neck of the woods - hope all is well.

    Have to disagree with you here. It is mind boggling to me that the President and the Pentagon don't have a strategy for dealing with ISIS when they just went into Iraq and spent a few days bombing ISIS. What was the intent behind that move? To calm domestic anger only? What did the Pentagon tell him was the likely outcome from the bombing? Or doesn't the Pentagon waste time filling the President in on what's happening in the world these days?

    The US, the Defense Department and the State Department have strategies and contingency plans for any number of potential scenarios that are taking place or may take place in the world at any point in time. What this tells me is that the President isn't in the loop and that's probably a good thing.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who knew that playing golf was preferable to actually gathering the cabinet and solving something?

    If the strategy is to ensure that America is no longer seen as the lone super power, and project weakness, bravo.
    You can do better than bringing up the golf myth again. What a crock. All presidents need some down time. He's wired in 24/7 anyway.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good afternoon F&L - morning in your neck of the woods - hope all is well.

    Have to disagree with you here. It is mind boggling to me that the President and the Pentagon don't have a strategy for dealing with ISIS when they just went into Iraq and spent a few days bombing ISIS. What was the intent behind that move? To calm domestic anger only? What did the Pentagon tell him was the likely outcome from the bombing? Or doesn't the Pentagon waste time filling the President in on what's happening in the world these days?

    The US, the Defense Department and the State Department have strategies and contingency plans for any number of potential scenarios that are taking place or may take place in the world at any point in time. What this tells me is that the President isn't in the loop and that's probably a good thing.

    I think they have plans just nothing that the President is willing to approve of as being acceptable right now.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Americans are tired of war and want peace but 'Superpower' status, and 'Leader of the Free World' status, means they either inherit those responsibilities or transfer them elsewhere, much like the British did. But now there is no one to transfer them to. Their enemies are not going to end a war simply because polls show Americans are tired of it, or that they can be placated because BHO admitted to some American mistakes, has a Muslim background, or was a left wing sympathizer in college. What the Nobel Committee saw as strengths were not shared by the realpolitik players.

    I can see a further exodus from the United States by wealthier Americans who have become frustrated with both their domestic and international policies. The change Obama promised has now begun to arrive.
    Wealthy Americans will stay right where they are. Too many advantages to being wealthy in America vs. other countries. Besides if they leave they can't get the republicans to do their bidding.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And what exactly is your master plan? Keep in mind it needs to be more detailed than: KILL EM ALL!

    "Staying the **** out of it" IS a plan, and it's the plan most Americans want.
    It may be the plan most Americans want, but I guarantee you that that plan will not help make anything better.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Horse Hockey. Pure Speculation.
    The world awaits your next masterpiece of prose and theory.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And you feel they were effective in discouraging international terrorism?
    It's a tool in the tool box. Hard telling how many prospective Bin Laden's ended up as dog food.

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