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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There seems little can be done unless the American people elect a qualified President next time around, meaning all this will worsen until that happens. Obama, like President Bill Clinton, will probably try 'mini-bombing' somewhere to send another 'message', but won't be taken seriously at all.
    Those who believe that these growing, and predictable, crises in the world can be safely ignored will probably vote for whoever tells them that during the next election campaign. With no real leadership in America, or anywhere among the democracies, this will get a lot worse before it gets better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMcUDtXFxbU
    Mini-bomb? I used to load those so called "mini-bombs' on jet aircraft. I guarantee you don't want to be with 100 yds. of your so called 500 lb. mini-bombs. I don't give a **** how fanatic ISSI is, that's enough to literally scare the sheet out of you let alone send your body parts in all directions.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And what exactly is your master plan? Keep in mind it needs to be more detailed than: KILL EM ALL!

    "Staying the **** out of it" IS a plan, and it's the plan most Americans want.
    Oh, am I going to be in charge now? If I was the President, I sure as hell would have a plan, and if i didn't, I wouldn't broadcast that to the world.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The next president will be a four year president. He is going to inherit a **** storm and it will age him into a 1 term president.
    He?

    Our present CIC has already inherited a ton of grief from the ****ups of the previous administration. In fact he's been doing nothing but dealing with all of the ramifications of bad decisions.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria | Fox News

    Is anyone surprised? This is what you get when you put a completely unqualified community organized in office as president.
    You mean he's going to actually think about what to do next? That's outrageous! Boy do I miss the days when we had a real American president who would take drastic, irreversible action that led to the death of many, many Americans without having to stop and consider alternative plans. Obama has proven himself incompetent here by refusing to put our military in harm's way at the drop of a hat because there are a lot of conservatives who hate him and see this (and anything else) as another reason to hate him more.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, am I going to be in charge now? If I was the President, I sure as hell would have a plan, and if i didn't, I wouldn't broadcast that to the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I don't have a plan either, but then I didn't run for and be elected President. I expect him to have a plan.
    He has a plan: not really getting involved, which is supported by a war tired American populace.

    I'm not sure why you think America needs to be the world police, running into every conflict with a direct action "plan", but that's not our ****ing jobs. Why don't we focus on rebuilding America before we try to force democracy on another country that doesn't want it?
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Perhaps unintended consequences. But Russia did warn three years ago that US interference in Syria would cause the crisis to spread, and they were right.
    Well, if you consider being right from Russia's perspective only. With Syria now a snake pit of competing interests and the birthplace of a radical islamic caliphate, Russia now sees the US occupied by a hornets nest of their own making leaving Russia relatively free to cause havoc in their sphere of influence. But from everyone else's perspective, had the US and western allies gotten involved in Syria when the students first started their protest, before all the bad actors around the middle east flooded in, there likely would not be an ISIS to be concerned about now.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Already a thread here which was started yesterday: http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...sis-syria.html


    But anyways here was my comment on the matter: "Rather not jump the gun right away. Using military force should be a carefully strategized account, viewing all sides of the issue. We all know what happens when someone jumps the gun using military force. All sides of the argument should be looked at. Hell I'm generally not even for using force right now against ISIS, I think we should use other options, but if we are, we should take our time and carefully caluclate the use of force. I do think force will come (unfortunatley) but I'd rather not see us just go bomb bomb bomb bomb"


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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, am I going to be in charge now? If I was the President, I sure as hell would have a plan, and if i didn't, I wouldn't broadcast that to the world.
    It's easy to criticize. Any armchair general can do it. I notice you have no solutions. Typical.

    I can assure you there is a lot going on behind the scenes that we aren't aware of. In fact saying there is no plan is probably a strategy to lull our enemies into a false sense of complacency. It wouldn't be the first time this and other presidents have done that and then come down like a hammer.

    I think we've been showing our hand too much anyway.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, if you consider being right from Russia's perspective only. With Syria now a snake pit of competing interests and the birthplace of a radical islamic caliphate, Russia now sees the US occupied by a hornets nest of their own making leaving Russia relatively free to cause havoc in their sphere of influence. But from everyone else's perspective, had the US and western allies gotten involved in Syria when the students first started their protest, before all the bad actors around the middle east flooded in, their likely would not be an ISIS to be concerned about now.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Who knew that playing golf was preferable to actually gathering the cabinet and solving something?

    If the strategy is to ensure that America is no longer seen as the lone super power, and project weakness, bravo.
    To be fair to Barrack Obama he was also doing a great deal of fund raising as well.

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