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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Wasn't it great to hear Hillary tell the truth?
    You mean only if Hillary Clinton says something that is disparaging of Obama is she telling the truth! Your partisan freakish opinion is clear for all to see, and this comment lays it wide open.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

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    So...when did we march in Syria? When will the progressives work it out that these fanatical Islamic terrorist groups do not just spring up out of thin air. We did not create them. Nor did we create the power vacuum in Syria.
    "March" in my context, as you well know, is a figure of speech for ANY AND ALL, US involvement/interference in the Middle East. Whether its from the embassy level, covert operations from the Central Interference Agency, "limited" air strikes, or boots on the ground. Failed US policy for YEARS has emboldened militant Islamic groups and you freakish partisans can point a finger at one party or the other all you want, but in the meantime, as pointed out now, by many in America and by China and Russia, the US is destroying the ME!!!!
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    There are things that Obama has done that are unconstitutional. There are things Lincoln did that were unconstitutional too. There are things that every President does that are unconstitutional. But the President is pretty much a figure head and I don't believe they have very much say in policy.

    My question was: what are you referring to? Because I don't know what you have a problem with. The subject here is regarding ISIS. So I'm not sure what your point is.
    I agree with you, and you should elaborate on what drives US policies. Because partisans on both sides think there's a world of difference between both parties when in fact, there's a dimes thickness in difference between them. Both parties use the CIA to topple left leaning democracies and replace them with right wing dictatorships, both parties have relentlessly supported Israel in the ME, both parties have simultaneously supported militant Islamic groups in the ME. Occupying troops in both Korea and Germany have been perpetuated throughout decades of both administrations. The over the top very offensive Pentagon budget has dwarfed the rest of the worlds with only slight variations between administrations. At home you hear people complaining that 110 million people are on some sort of federal assistance under Obama, as though there were none on it under Bush, when in fact there were 100 million on it then, 70 million under Clinton, 50 million under Bush, 30 million under Reagan and so on, proving that its a trend that surpasses administrations. The national debt tripled under Reagan, doubled under George W Bush and likely will double again under Obama. Our southern border has been unsecured forever, but let partisans tell it and Obama opened the gates when he became president. Abortions have been happening legally, for 45 years and the GOP campaigns on the issue, but never changes it, Navy Pride says there's 54,000,000 now. Note the Church Committees report and subsequent whistle blowers up to and including Edward Snowden, and the NSA has been engaged in one form of extra constitutional domestic spying or another for 40 years, and no party has reigned them in. And there's no end to the similitude of policies between the parties and from one administration to the next. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Hmmm. Do you really think so?

    Attachment 67172194
    Militant Islamic groups have been emboldened by every US administration since Carter, at least, and you, the fellows that liked your post and all the rest of the right wingers on this board IGNORE this, are you aware of how scared terrorists were of GWB? Here's just one of several American be-headings under him! Stop being a partisan, and as such a part of what's WRONG with America, and be an American first and demand an end to insane US policy in the ME!!

    Militants Behead American Hostage in Iraq
    Published May 11, 2004FoxNews.comFacebook6 Twitter2 livefyre0
    A 26-year-old American from Pennsylvania was beheaded to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, and the militants who killed him videotaped the crime and posted it on a radical Islamic Web site.

    Al Qaeda terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi (search), believed to be behind the wave of homicide bombings in Iraq, may have either authorized the execution or actually performed the act himself, U.S. officials believe.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/2004/05...stage-in-iraq/
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by BringIt View Post

    We'll need an entire thread to answer your question "What Obama himself is doing to violate the constitution"?


    President Obama’s team recently suffered their twelfth defeat at the Supreme Court.

    But, you
    won't see anything about this stunning record in the main stream media. Why? Duh! Because the President's propaganda machine is manipulated and controlled by progressive liberals[FONT=Times New Roman][COLOR=#000000]
    Are you aware that W Bush had 15 unanimous decisions against him in the supreme court?

    You won't hear anything about that on your conservative propaganda websites because they are manipulated by millionaires who are tricking you into thinking that democrats vs. republicans is akin to evil socialists vs. the jedi counsel.

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Any U.S. President is very important in foreign affairs--that's just basic civics.

    I agree with the other poster that the catalog of Mr. Obama's offenses against the Constitution is too long to get into in much depth here. It's hard to imagine how anyone who understands the Constitution could even question that he has been largely ignoring it from the beginning, whenever he finds its restrictions on his authority inconvenient for his socialist agenda. I'm sure Mr. Obama's acolytes would like to deny all this, because most of them don't like the Constitution any better than he does.
    In other words, you've heard and read that he does a lot of unconstitutional things, but you don't know enough about them to be able to have a discourse about them.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I agree with you, and you should elaborate on what drives US policies. Because partisans on both sides think there's a world of difference between both parties when in fact, there's a dimes thickness in difference between them. Both parties use the CIA to topple left leaning democracies and replace them with right wing dictatorships, both parties have relentlessly supported Israel in the ME, both parties have simultaneously supported militant Islamic groups in the ME. Occupying troops in both Korea and Germany have been perpetuated throughout decades of both administrations. The over the top very offensive Pentagon budget has dwarfed the rest of the worlds with only slight variations between administrations. At home you hear people complaining that 110 million people are on some sort of federal assistance under Obama, as though there were none on it under Bush, when in fact there were 100 million on it then, 70 million under Clinton, 50 million under Bush, 30 million under Reagan and so on, proving that its a trend that surpasses administrations. The national debt tripled under Reagan, doubled under George W Bush and likely will double again under Obama. Our southern border has been unsecured forever, but let partisans tell it and Obama opened the gates when he became president. Abortions have been happening legally, for 45 years and the GOP campaigns on the issue, but never changes it, Navy Pride says there's 54,000,000 now. Note the Church Committees report and subsequent whistle blowers up to and including Edward Snowden, and the NSA has been engaged in one form of extra constitutional domestic spying or another for 40 years, and no party has reigned them in. And there's no end to the similitude of policies between the parties and from one administration to the next. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
    You're right on with all of that. There's a reason for all of it, too. Instead of a royal family, america has their corporate darlings who are funding campaigns. Some of the donors come from families who have been funding campaigns since the industrial revolution. The other arm is the lobbyists who manipulate congress and public opinion, which I'm sure is fairly easy. These outside influences make it impossible for any person to come to Washington and make meaningful change. You have to be very, very adept at politics and already have a lot of power and allies to step into the White House and overcome the challenge of competing with the machinery. I think that Clinton was the most successful, but as you pointed out, the troubling trends all continued and major policies went completely unchanged.

    It's not Democrats vs. Republicans, it's Bureaucrats vs. Capitalists, and the real debate is how each side can make a lot of money.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    "March" in my context, as you well know, is a figure of speech for ANY AND ALL, US involvement/interference in the Middle East. Whether its from the embassy level, covert operations from the Central Interference Agency, "limited" air strikes, or boots on the ground. Failed US policy for YEARS has emboldened militant Islamic groups and you freakish partisans can finger at one party or the other all you want, but in the meantime, as pointed out now, by many in America and by China and Russia, the US is destroying the ME!!!!
    You are clueless. You are even including embassy level? You think we are causing terrorism by not acting as isolationists? You eventually need to learn what motivates fanatical Islamic terrorists. It is not US moves in the middle east. And what Russia and China say about it is not relevant as they have political motives of their own. It is radical ideology that motivates Islamic terrorists.....nothing more....nothing less. And once again, they do not represent any given nation much less the middle east. They represent a radical version of islam. They are not rational. Neither are you when you attempt to justify their terrorism by blaming it on the US.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    From WaPo today:

    The world Obama now confronts is far different from the one he inherited when he came into office almost six years ago, and it is testing equally whether the style and substance of his leadership can win supporters and prevail against enemies.

    ...In the first years of his presidency, Obama’s principal foreign policy goals were far less reactive and were more dependent on his initiative and sense of timing.

    But as he tried to engage the world on his terms, Obama quickly found out that the world had thoughts and plans of its own. Far from the reset Obama sought with Russia, President Vladimir Putin sought a new balance of power through aggression in Ukraine. While Obama offered a fresh start for the United States in the Muslim world, the Arab Spring headed toward destabilization rather than democracy.

    Six years later, events seem to have spun out of his control, and Obama must react to the actions of others. Putin’s aggression in Ukraine has sparked the greatest East-West crisis since the Cold War. Islamic State advances have swallowed up a large swath of the Middle East and threaten a global upheaval far beyond the shock of al-Qaeda’s 2001 attacks. Obama sets his own pace in a world whirling with crises - The Washington Post
    Here's part of the problem. From the same article: "Officials across the government spent Friday trying to clean up after Obama’s Thursday news conference. They insisted that his “no strategy” remark had been misinterpreted and that what was being portrayed as hesitation and delay was instead a sign of due diligence and a sharp focus on developing an effective long-term plan."
    Really, you shouldn't let the media do your thinking for you.

    But if you are, you should at least report what the usual morons are also saying:

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene's link above
    Republicans pounced on the statement. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), speaking Friday in Texas, said, “If the president has no strategy, maybe it’s time for a new president.” He said in a later e-mail that he would call a joint session of Congress to seek authority “to destroy ISIS militarily,” using another name for the Islamic State.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by BringIt View Post
    I think the real question is what will Obama do if his power is not reduced in the next election?
    Oh, the irony of that question.
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