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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    The fact is that there isn't anything the U.S. and it's allies can do to effectively put an end to ISIS short of an all out invasion of Syria and a reoccupation of Iraq. Even then, like Al Qaeda, it's unlikely they will ever really be defeated. The removal of Saddam Hussein was one of the worst foreign policy/military decisions in this country's history and now we're going to have to pay the price for it. The only question the Obama administration needs to decide is how high that price will be. If there is no strategy yet it's because it hasn't been decided who will share in that burden with us and how.

    No one could have predicted that ISIS would gain the traction it has and no one could have predicted that the Iraqi army would hand over vast swaths of their country without a fight. For example, no one foresaw 30,000 heavily armed and American trained Iraqi troops abandoning their posts and weaponry then fleeing from only 500 lightly armed terrorists on the outskirts of Mosul. There is only one possible even remotely effective course of action which I noted above and I'm glad we have a President who is going to think long and hard about it this time around instead of throwing resources and lives away without a plan. What we don't need is more war hawk knee-jerk reactionism.
    Marching across the Middle East and creating power vacuums that have given rise to militant Islamic groups seems the earlier problem and reason for the handwringing over what to do now that we've let ISIS out of the bag.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I can see no basis for your strident denials of the obvious. Acceptance of your denial would mean that all the idiotic attacks on him are the result of logical, coherent thinking -- and that is quite a laugh when you hear some of these nutcases rant on the TV and radio, and read some of the missives published in print and on the internet

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    People are laughing at Obama, ridiculing Obama, wondering why anyone would vote for him, curios who the boneheads are who still think he's doing agood job but, as far as I have ever seen, no one has ever said they hated him.

    Ridiculing someone and hating them is not the same thing, though you seem to want to believe that. Seems you also want to believe its about race as well. Barrack is only a reminder that stupid comes in all races, colors, and cultures.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, I have a different piece up with what the Obstacles are in Syria.

    Seems BO wasn't so truthful about his not having plans.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...jihadists.html (US arms Lebanon for fight against Jihadists.....)

    Although.....I still don't get why he would give weapons to those who would just give them to Hezbollah.
    He does this sort of thing between plans.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    If you are concerned, go to Europe and fight against their overthrow. I believe your statement is pure hyperbole.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He does this sort of thing between plans.
    Heya Grant. Yeah, I heard Hillary mention how he likes to wing it.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well al Nusra already has taken the Quneitri Crossing.....and is in the Golan Heights. Also 6 rockets were fired from Syria and from the same region. Yet none have taken credit.

    Which we have that up in the War on Terror Forum.

    Yeah, I just read about the rebels in Golan and repelling the Filipino UN peacekeepers. That's getting dangerously close to Israel and they won't stand for those ISIL fighters one bit. They'll break out a whole case of "whoop-ass" and do the Meshuggina stomp.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And what exactly is your master plan? Keep in mind it needs to be more detailed than: KILL EM ALL!

    "Staying the **** out of it" IS a plan, and it's the plan most Americans want.
    Not if you're a chickenhawk and in need of greasing the war machine.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    You mean he's going to actually think about what to do next? That's outrageous! Boy do I miss the days when we had a real American president who would take drastic, irreversible action that led to the death of many, many Americans without having to stop and consider alternative plans. Obama has proven himself incompetent here by refusing to put our military in harm's way at the drop of a hat because there are a lot of conservatives who hate him and see this (and anything else) as another reason to hate him more.
    No, he want's you to think that inbetween putt's on the 13th hole, he is thinking about it...What he is doing in reality is inserting Special Forces in there that he hasn't told anyone about, and left our policy open to the same type of 'mission creep' that liberal presidents always do....They are typically indecisive, and get more of our young men and women killed in conflict than repub's do. And you fall for the BS every time...Congratulations.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Yeah, I just read about the rebels in Golan and repelling the Filipino UN peacekeepers. That's getting dangerously close to Israel and they won't stand for those ISIL fighters one bit. They'll break out a whole case of "whoop-ass" and do the Meshuggina stomp.
    Yeah they called them Rebels.....even tho Al Nusra pledged to ISIL. Rebels is a stretch.....They are Terrorists and are not part of the MB backed Syrian Rebels.

    They also took 40 Un peacekeepers.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    He does this sort of thing between plans.
    Is there a "between"?...

    I see stumbling from one issue to another until it becomes a crisis, then shifts to the next issue.

    Does he know there's a war in Ukraine?
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