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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    That's the problem with supplying rebels, because you don't know who they will affiliate themselves with and make trades. It's becoming a messed up situation, where we don't know who to support.

    For now, I think the Obama plan is to keep the conflict contained within it's current geographic boundaries, so as not to widen its scope or draw in other surrounding countries (Jordan, Iran, Israel, Saudi Arabia, etc).
    Well supplying weapons to Lebanon. Is not supplying weapons like to rebels. Moreover as WN put it.....the Lebanese government is nothing more than the beard of Hezbollah.

    So while he said he had no plans.....this shipment has been in the works.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Obama doesn't seem to know who the good guys or bad guys are. "Rebels" has no meaning.
    Well, to be honest, there are no good guys in Syria, just bad guys and civilians.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I know, being a Bush supporter, these concepts seem foreign to you, but it's the way most of the world operates.
    Do you have any evidence that BHO is thinking or planning anything? Or is this just your hope?

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

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    I can see no basis for your strident denials of the obvious. Acceptance of your denial would mean that all the idiotic attacks on him are the result of logical, coherent thinking -- and that is quite a laugh when you hear some of these nutcases rant on the TV and radio, and read some of the missives published in print and on the internet

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well supplying weapons to Lebanon. Is not supplying weapons like to rebels. Moreover as WN put it.....the Lebanese government is nothing more than the beard of Hezbollah.

    So while he said he had no plans.....this shipment has been in the works.

    Yeah, but Hezbollah are terrorists and extremists, just a different brand than the Islamic extremists in Syria, who recently attacked the Lebanese border town of Arsal kidnapping and killing soldiers. If ISIS effectively took over Lebanon, I guarantee Israel would unleash an attack of epic proportions on them. It's all about containment for now, and the enemy of our enemy is our friend.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good afternoon F&L - morning in your neck of the woods - hope all is well.

    Have to disagree with you here. It is mind boggling to me that the President and the Pentagon don't have a strategy for dealing with ISIS when they just went into Iraq and spent a few days bombing ISIS. What was the intent behind that move? To calm domestic anger only? What did the Pentagon tell him was the likely outcome from the bombing? Or doesn't the Pentagon waste time filling the President in on what's happening in the world these days?

    The US, the Defense Department and the State Department have strategies and contingency plans for any number of potential scenarios that are taking place or may take place in the world at any point in time. What this tells me is that the President isn't in the loop and that's probably a good thing.


    And good EDT to you sir.


    I hope you understand that the post was intended as sarcasm, but you are correct. They have been talking about bombing these guys for how long now?

    I suspect there is no plan because they have not one clue what to do that will appease their base, Republican moderates and the international community. I don't know about your neck of the woods, but here in the sensible shoe wearing, organic left coast there is the usual level of ambiguity; but Ukraine remains the higher focus.
    So if that is the prevailing attitude in Europe, Mr. Obama is likely having trouble deciding whether to appease hawks, doves with a "teeny" attack, or his precious "international community"
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    We started interfering once the Saud and Qatar pressured us to do so. Which Hill-Dog admitted in her Friends of Syrian Meetings. Wherein she stated we gave support to the MB backed Rebels in the form of Soft aid and helping them to avoid capture.

    Yeah you can make the case Russia supported Assad.....but then that's about it.
    And of course Russia supported president Assad and if the US had sound policies in the ME, we would have as well. But don't be thinking the lone super power had its arm twisted by SA and Qatar alone. "Regime change" in Syria has been a long term US foreign policy.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Yeah, but Hezbollah are terrorists and extremists, just a different brand than the Islamic extremists in Syria, who recently attacked the Lebanese border town of Arsal kidnapping and killing soldiers. If ISIS effectively took over Lebanon, I guarantee Israel would unleash an attack of epic proportions on them. It's all about containment for now, and the enemy of our enemy is our friend.

    Well al Nusra already has taken the Quneitri Crossing.....and is in the Golan Heights. Also 6 rockets were fired from Syria and from the same region. Yet none have taken credit.

    Which we have that up in the War on Terror Forum.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    He said were are adding troops (surge) in Afghanistan and then we're pulling out in two weeks no matter what.


    Leaving. In other words, with the "no matter what" even if the Taliban hump up Al-Qaeda the US is out, gone, abandoning the original objective just like Vietnam and now Iraq.

    Yeah, that's a "plan".
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And of course Russia supported president Assad and if the US had sound policies in the ME, we would have as well. But don't be thinking the lone super power had its arm twisted by SA and Qatar alone. "Regime change" in Syria has been a long term US foreign policy.
    Mornin Monte. I didn't forget that's why I talked about the French and their resolutions in the UN. Which with Syria.....BO was still playing follower.

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