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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And what exactly is your master plan? Keep in mind it needs to be more detailed than: KILL EM ALL!

    "Staying the **** out of it" IS a plan, and it's the plan most Americans want.
    He's not President, Obama is. Try concentrating on that.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Perhaps unintended consequences. But Russia did warn three years ago that US interference in Syria would cause the crisis to spread, and they were right.
    Yes....it was stupid to give aid and comfort to ISIS in Syria and not expect them to spread into Iraq.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    As one who has seldom, if ever, supported Obama, I must here.

    Congrats, a president that admits to what every other president in recent history has neglected to mention....attack first, plan later.

    Look, you were in Vietnam how long? What was the plan there when the US rejected please from Ho Chi Minh for help and attacked him instead? What was the "plan" in the second Iraq war? That one sure worked...fire everyone with a gun, kick them out of a job and expect them to line the streets waving home made flags?

    What IS the plan in Afghanistan, besides killing every living thing you see? If there is one, can someone point to what that looks like?

    He got honest for once in his administration....must be something in the water
    He said were are adding troops (surge) in Afghanistan and then we're pulling out in two weeks no matter what.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Saudi king warns West will be jihadists' next target

    The Jackass-in-Chief is in deep trouble. His policies are worthless. Maybe he'll challenge them to a round of golf.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Looks like the 2nd and 3rd string conservatives have shown up.
    Obama is down 46--52 in the latest Rasmussen poll, a gain of 13 points in less than a month.

    And the President won't have to deal with Bitch McFilibuster next year whose reelection effort fell apart this week.
    With his campaign manager resigning amid a Ron Paul bribery cloud hanging over him.
    And a secret recording promising to shut down the government on every issue with policy riders, at the latest Koch Head conferences .
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Europe was already civilized pre-war. The middle east has never been civilized. It's been a violent ****hole and no amount of us being there is going to change that. You can't force peace and prosperity on people, they have to choose it for themselves.
    The middle east is the birthplace of civilization itself. And so long as you are defending the common man from warlords and despots, you'll foster civilization. The good people that are prone to being civilized and peaceful are not generally effective at defending themselves from those that are not civilized and peaceful. They need help.
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I like that he calls a spade a spade. He came right out and called extremist islam the horrible evil that it is. However, I don't agree with a lot of the measures they want to implement, particularly in revoking UK citizens' citizenship without trial. That's a patriot act style government overreach that could be direly misused. If the evidence that they're terrorists is so water tight, a trial should be open and shut.



    Europe was already civilized pre-war. The middle east has never been civilized. It's been a violent ****hole and no amount of us being there is going to change that. You can't force peace and prosperity on people, they have to choose it for themselves.
    We need to, "civilize'em with a Krag"
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    And what exactly is your master plan? Keep in mind it needs to be more detailed than: KILL EM ALL!

    "Staying the **** out of it" IS a plan, and it's the plan most Americans want.
    We can deal with them now, or deal with them later. They're not going away.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Saudi king warns West will be jihadists' next target

    The Jackass-in-Chief is in deep trouble. His policies are worthless. Maybe he'll challenge them to a round of golf.


    Yeah he told them like it is. But don't worry Kerry is on the job.


    "If we ignore them, I am sure they will reach Europe in a month and America in another month," he said in remarks quoted on Saturday by Asharq al-Awsat daily and Saudi-backed Al-Arabiya television station. "Terrorism knows no border and its danger could affect several countries outside the Middle East," said the king who was speaking at a welcoming ceremony on Friday for new ambassadors, including a new envoy from Saudi ally the United States. "It is no secret to you, what they have done and what they have yet to do. I ask you to transmit this message to your leaders: 'Fight terrorism with force, reason and (necessary) speed'."

    US Secretary of State John Kerry called Friday for a global coalition to combat Islamic State fighters' "genocidal agenda"Writing in the New York Times, Kerry said he and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel will meet European counterparts on the sidelines of a NATO summit in Wales next week, to enlist assistance.....snip~

    Saudi king warns West will be jihadists' next target

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    We didn't interfere. We stayed clear because the alternatives were't good either, much to the consternation of war mongers like McCain and Lindsey Graham. At least we got the chemical weapons destroyed.

    I could easily make the case that Russia meddled more than we did as they supported the Assad regime.
    Well, we didn't overtly interfere. However, the US has actively been aiding the Syrian rebels for quite some time now.
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