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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    I'd rather have the President not tell the press or GOP anything about what he is thinking and planning.

    We saw the NYT tell the World we were flying manned and unmanned flights over Syria.

    These folks seem to forget we are still at WAR .
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Ya, you are right. He hasn't done anything to put the US and world into the current situation it is in. /s
    He clearly didn't say that but you knew that as you typed.

    54% of Americans think the President should be tougher.
    Yet the vast majority of GOPs and Dems are opposed to boots on the ground--the vein R. Paul/Libertarian is tapping in to.

    FOX and Krauthammer-types fawn over Putin while wanting multiple wars around the planet, against the views of the American people .
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Very true. Also Assad told the U.S. they were on the wrong side in supporting the Rebels. That they were terrorist.
    And that is very true as well!
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There has been covert US support in Syria from the beginning. Had the US and other regional states not injected themselves, president Assad would have put the insurrection down early on, there wouldn't be 160,000 dead civilians and IS wouldn't have found the blossoming room that they did. And further, IS got its start in Iraq, another place that the US created a power vacuum in, so they WOULD still exist, but not likely as powerful as they are at present.
    Heya Monte. Which of those regional states interjected themselves first and then called on the US to back their play? Oh and who created the Power vacuum where ISIL/AQ got its start and how was that vacuum created and by which President?

    ISIL is AQ in Levant. Then there was that issue of the Z Man and AQ prime saying they were to radical for them. Yet this entire time that ISIL has morphed.....AQ Prime who says they wanted nothing to do with them. Just kept on having things to do with them. Especially the most dangerous faction of all of Al Qaida. That would be AQAP in Yemen. Who is in close contact with whom?

    But hey.....the US media made sure all knew that ISIL was disowned by AQ. Imagine that.

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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    I think they have plans just nothing that the President is willing to approve of as being acceptable right now.

    Heya Grip. Well that's what the Recon flights over Syria is for, since we really have no eyes on the ground.



    He also noted that he had asked Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel -- and his joint chiefs of staff -- to furnish him with “a range of options” to finally deal with these violent and bloodthirsty terrorists.

    Obama: We Have No Strategy to Fight ISIS; Ukraine Wasn

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya Monte. Which of those regional states interjected themselves first and then called on the US to back their play? Oh and who created the Power vacuum where ISIL/AQ got its start and how was that vacuum created and by which President?

    ISIL is AQ in Levant. Then there was that issue of the Z Man and AQ prime saying they were to radical for them. Yet this entire time that ISIL has morphed.....AQ Prime who says they wanted nothing to do with them. Just kept on having things to do with them. Especially the most dangerous faction of all of Al Qaida. That would be AQAP in Yemen. Who is in close contact with whom?

    But hey.....the US media made sure all knew that ISIL was disowned by AQ. Imagine that.
    Howdy bud! Yeah, they did want to draw a big separation between ISIS/ISIL and AQ.
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    re: Obama under fire for admitting no 'strategy yet' for ISIS in Syria [W:446]

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Wealthy Americans will stay right where they are. Too many advantages to being wealthy in America vs. other countries. Besides if they leave they can't get the republicans to do their bidding.



    Make sure you send that memo to Buffet, Gates, and those associated with Steve Jobs, while talking that good talk. Which as usual.....is nothing more than just talk!

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    We didn't interfere. We stayed clear because the alternatives were't good either, much to the consternation of war mongers like McCain and Lindsey Graham. At least we got the chemical weapons destroyed.

    I could easily make the case that Russia meddled more than we did as they supported the Assad regime.


    We started interfering once the Saud and Qatar pressured us to do so. Which Hill-Dog admitted in her Friends of Syrian Meetings. Wherein she stated we gave support to the MB backed Rebels in the form of Soft aid and helping them to avoid capture.

    Yeah you can make the case Russia supported Assad.....but then that's about it.

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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Out of the last 10 years? We were in Iraq from 2003 to 2011. How did that help us? Why should we go right back in where we left off? How long do you want us there? 20? 30 years?
    I want us there as long as it takes....like we did in Europe.

    You know, I haven't heard jack **** from any of you regarding what YOU would actually do. We're focusing on air strikes and paramilitary raids, we don't need ground forces. The Iraqi and Syrian people have to decide for themselves that they don't want to tolerate extremism, we can't force it on them, we've tried.
    Then you haven't been listening. I would establish a persistant force in Iraq...preferably a UN force, but if not, a US force....much like we did in Europe and Japan post WWII and follow it with an Iraqi version of the Marshall plan.

    We're using air strikes and not committing ground troops. How is that not a plan? Are you denying there are air strikes? I could understand you not liking the plan, but claiming there isn't one is ignoring reality.
    We have committed ground troops. There are US "boots on the ground".
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    Re: Obama has no strategy yet for dealing with ISIS.

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Howdy bud! Yeah, they did want to draw a big separation between ISIS/ISIL and AQ.
    Again.....what was the true reality? What were the actual facts on the ground showing?

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