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Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

Look at the headlin. 33% of Americans on welfare. It says what it says. Course the real figure is under 5%. But yea, close enough for Fox.

What I said was government assistance and if you find the census bureau as a credible source then the figures are pretty close in 2012 and a lot higher than 5%.
 
I guess you didn't actually read the link in the OP? It defines "welfare" by including many government assisted programs that weren't identified in the link you posted, which was pretty specific to welfare checks and food stamps.

And VA benefits. And student loans. And the Cato institute calculated a "total welfare package" that is ridiculous. And ignores the fact that the vast majority of households receiving these benefits are working families.
 
My remark form another thread. I was lazy and just cut and pasted. I also didn't mention VA in the remarks below.

I get where they are going with these articles but they don't paint a whole picture. I agree to a point but they cherry picked data and spun it.

First they don't give a statistical breakdown.
Second, they don't include that people have contributed towards Social Security and Federal Retirement.
They don't mention the military so I would assume they included the military in the data.
They don't mention retired military.
This is just off the top of my head, without thinking about it much.

I receive money from FERS (Federal Employees Retirement System) that I contributed. They collect a higher percentage of a federal employees pay than they pay out. They collect it longer than a federal employee will collect it for. Net gain, government. I contributed more than I will get back.
They don't mention that the people that are retired on Social Security contributed more than they will ever get. Net gain, government.

I am not saying that there aren't a massive amount of free loaders because there are. I am saying that this data is flawed as it is presented.
 
The OP was intentionally misleading and dishonest. Why are the conservatives defending it?
 
From a Democrats perspective the more dependency = the better politically for them.
 
The OP was intentionally misleading and dishonest. Why are the conservatives defending it?

Perhaps others aren't trying to split hairs to find an out to the overall premise presented in the OP.
 
The difference between 5% and 33% is only spliting hairs when Fox is doing the spinning. It is a straight up dishonest headline. Come on, you guys can admit it.
Perhaps others aren't trying to split hairs to find an out to the overall premise presented in the OP.
 
And VA benefits. And student loans. And the Cato institute calculated a "total welfare package" that is ridiculous. And ignores the fact that the vast majority of households receiving these benefits are working families.

So call them up and tell them that.
 
The difference between 5% and 33% is only spliting hairs when Fox is doing the spinning. It is a straight up dishonest headline. Come on, you guys can admit it.

LOL

I guess it is reasonable to admit they probably assumed rational people would be reading and understanding the information. I'm not really sure they care much about the others.
 
People on welfare are often afraid of losing that welfare and which party is usually more in favor of not decreasing/increasing welfare?

Hmmmmmm....

Republicans...You know, the ones who keep pandering to senior citizens, the people who consume a huge portion of entitlement benefits.
 
From a Democrats perspective the more dependency = the better politically for them.

Is that why it's always Republicans trying to inflate welfare statistics?
 
Always is it? Care to back that up?

Have you ever seen a Democrat lump every form of government assistance together and call it "welfare?"
 
My my for a moderate you certainly do stick up for the DNC enough eh? :lamo

About as often as you go for the RNC - for a Libertarian. It makes me laugh when people think moderate means "Republican."

So nothing to say on topic? Just the personal attacks?
 
About as often as you go for the RNC - for a Libertarian. It makes me laugh when people think moderate means "Republican."

So nothing to say on topic? Just the personal attacks?

If you don't agree with me 100% on every topic you must be an extreme member of the other side.
 
The Democratic Slave Plantation is recruiting more recipients by opening the border.

Yeah uh huh. Funny there are more moochers in the reds states than blue and there are more white anglos on welfare than minorities.

And just how do illegals vote? I live in an area that is very Hispanic and have yet to see one at the voting booth.
 
There is not really any proof of widespread voter fraud, but the Repubs repeat it over and over until they all think that is why they lose elections.
Yeah uh huh. Funny there are more moochers in the reds states than blue and there are more white anglos on welfare than minorities.

And just how do illegals vote? I live in an area that is very Hispanic and have yet to see one at the voting booth.
 
Arent all seniors eligible for medicare? And SS is probably included so that also covers all seniors and disabled and the kids of deceased parents?
 
Have you ever seen a Democrat lump every form of government assistance together and call it "welfare?"

Ironic - you using "always" though. You're hyper-partisan is showing and you've been around long enough to know better.
 
Arent all seniors eligible for medicare? And SS is probably included so that also covers all seniors and disabled and the kids of deceased parents?
All government assistance.
 
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