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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, we should abolish the system, just pay me back the money I've put in since age 14 and I'll take it from there....Thanks.
    If you are close to retirement age you will get that back and then some.

    As each generation passes, the less they get paid in comparison. Gen x people like myself will never get back what we paid into it, milkenials? Forget it.

    Seniors never had it so good, as a result, millenials will be left with the burden

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    The lefties have their panties in a bunch over the article, so they try and skew numbers to make it fit their feeble minds

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I guess I'm just too selfish, you know like corporations. I worked 40 years, I paid into SS and now I'm receiving money monthly.

    I assume when you reach retirement age you will not accept any SS money.
    By the time i reach retirement age, in 31 years (67), the program will undoubtedly be non existent or so means tested i will receive nothing. So you're welcome

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    By the time i reach retirement age, in 31 years (67), the program will undoubtedly be non existent or so means tested i will receive nothing. So you're welcome
    I'm doing my part!

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I'm doing my part!
    Which is? Spending money? Im certain you are. Boomers are without a doubt the worst generation

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Well, again using Red's first link we find more Census data that seems to debunk yet another right wing talking point: namely, that you can make as much or more money on welfare than by working (although given the way blue collar wages have stagnated over the past few decades it is hardly a surprise that welfare, more attuned to inflation adjustments, becomes closer to what is laughingly called a 'living wage' in these days of corporate excess).

    If you look at 2012 Table 5: People 16 Years and Over by Labor Force Status and Monthly Household Cash Income: Monthly Averages ◾4th Quarter you'll see that

    the Median Household Income inhabited by a person "with job entire month" = $5,778 while

    the Median Household Income inhabited by a person "with no labor force activity" = $3,302.

    Similarly, households that contained people working part time or laid off or looking for work (presume unemployment benefits in at least some of those cases) had a lower Median Household Income than that the full time worker. It therefore seems clear that work does indeed pay.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    By the time i reach retirement age, in 31 years (67), the program will undoubtedly be non existent or so means tested i will receive nothing. So you're welcome
    Total paranoia and disconnect from reality. I blame right wing media

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabanist View Post
    The lefties have their panties in a bunch over the article, so they try and skew numbers to make it fit their feeble minds
    LOL... well, Fox didn't really provide any numbers (except they one they wanted their minions to freak out over), and now that we get a look at the numbers we're beginning to see why (which is usually the case then the right wing echo chamber starts throwing 'disconnected' numbers around).

    I'm sorry the propaganda is not working out quite as well as Fox, and based upon your post, you, wanted.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    IMO, the word "welfare" is far more expansive than the list of programs you mentioned. It should include SS, Medicare, not to mention numerous tax subsidies in the form of deductions and credits and all types of govt grants

    I don't suppose the focus on "means tested" programs has anything to do with an intent to provoke animosity towards the poor.
    SS is not welfare, since the people that typically receive it paid into it. Medicare is also paid into for the vast amount of recipients. Tax subsidies and credits are not considered welfare based on the fact that there isn't money going out from the government coffers, but rather a discount on what goes into the coffers. You are moving the goalposts and ignoring the data the article is pointing to. Maybe I expected a more substantive response from you regarding the topic and the numbers that were provided. My bad.
    Welfare (Food Stamps, WIC, etc...) are not entitlements. They are taxpayer funded handouts and shouldn't be called entitlements at all. Social Security and Veteran's benefits are 'Entitlements' because the people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid for by the recipients.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Not for corrupt Democrats.

    The more people on welfare, the more votes they get. It's part of the reason, IMO, why the Dem head honchos keep pushing for more and more social programs.

    People on welfare are often afraid of losing that welfare and which party is usually more in favor of not decreasing/increasing welfare?

    Hmmmmmm....
    The Republicans could be getting a lot of those votes if they weren't so busy waging war on the elderly, disabled, and working poor.
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