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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, we should abolish the system, just pay me back the money I've put in since age 14 and I'll take it from there....Thanks.
    Asking for your money back is not a reasonable request, but asking to not be involved in the program I feel is more than reasonable.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaaaman View Post
    They [Fox] are not any more biased than MSNBC or several other well known media outlets. Give me a break.
    Excusing a liar by offering up examples of other (supposed) liars? Tsk, tsk.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I like Jefferson believe in generational sovereignty. That when one generation binds the next to their contract they are in violation of their rights.
    Then I deserve reparations for the damage caused to me by the contract that I was unfairly bound to. Those reparations should be a monthly check starting at age 65.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Fox's point is not hard to understand. Reminds me of Romney.

    "You can't in the long run have a society in which you have to rely on a smaller and smaller group of wealth producers who have to support more and more people who are not contributing to that wealth," Tanner said.
    That would be a false maxim.... simple math should tell you that. Beware of intellectual subservience to talking heads.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I only consider it welfare if it is means tested. Government benefits in themselves aren't a discouragement to being productive. But means testing those government benefits are.
    Lots of people seem to want SS to be means tested. I don't agree with them.

    I agree with your overall statement that government assistance is only "welfare" when it's means tested. Welfare to me has a narrow definition.

    I've seen people on here say that deducting interest for mortgages on your taxes is a form of welfare.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Lots of people seem to want SS to be means tested. I don't agree with them.

    I agree with your overall statement that government assistance is only "welfare" when it's means tested. Welfare to me has a narrow definition.

    I've seen people on here say that deducting interest for mortgages on your taxes is a form of welfare.
    Sure, then we think alike on that issue.

    As far as deducting morgage interest, that's not means tested, so it's not welfare, although it is a subsidy.

    What I don't like about it is that it is as much a subsidy to the bank and the construction company and the real estate agent, as it is to the home owner. I don''t believe in subsidies as they distort our economy. Of course I don't support means tested welfare either.

    I have no issue with providing for the profoundly handicapped however, or for infrastructure or protection of life and property.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Then I deserve reparations for the damage caused to me by the contract that I was unfairly bound to. Those reparations should be a monthly check starting at age 65.
    That wouldn't solve the problem.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That wouldn't solve the problem.
    It would help solve MY retirement funding problem, and millions more like me.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    I've already spent it all, too bad!
    You laugh about it, sadly you are telling the truth here unabashedly I might add...You really feel no remorse that you have spent others money, til it is gone eh...I guess that goes to character.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    It certainly seems problematic, but bear in mind this may include things like Veterans' benefits and college aid. "Receiving government assistance of some kind" is rather vague.
    That is a very valid point and with the number of veterans the US produces annually, the GI Bill and so forth, that alters the equation substantially.

    And add pensioners...
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