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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Maybe it is partisanship, or repeating the same thing over and over and over, or the need for confirmation bias with a complete lack of critical thinking? I am not really sure exactly how the RWNM does it but it sure is effective.
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    It sort of is, Tres. What Fox did was create a deceptive headline that does not match reality. How can you not see it?
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It sort of is, Tres. What Fox did was create a deceptive headline that does not match reality. How can you not see it?
    It depends apparently on how you define "welfare", MG. If you include anything that comes from the government coffers, the headline isn't wrong.

    I'm willing to say the headline is wrong. And everyone who calls tax breaks for corporations "corporate welfare" plans to apply the same definition to citizens, then the headline isn't wrong.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It depends apparently on how you define "welfare", MG. If you include anything that comes from the government coffers, the headline isn't wrong.

    I'm willing to say the headline is wrong. And everyone who calls tax breaks for corporations "corporate welfare" plans to apply the same definition to citizens, then the headline isn't wrong.
    Many news outlets use the same tactic. The absolute worse is the Huffington Post. They always write these scary, eye-popping, OMFG headlines that do not match the content in the same grandiose scale. Even Jon Stewart made fun of them this week. Having said that, the HP is NOT a major news outlet and a lot of their content is fluff. Major news outlets should take better caution to not mislead. I can guarantee you that they don't give a **** who reads the content, as long as the 'scary' headline sticks.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by reinoe View Post
    SS is welfare. Your ignorance of how SS works doesn't change the fact that SS is a form of welfare.
    You're right, we should abolish the system, just pay me back the money I've put in since age 14 and I'll take it from there....Thanks.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Many news outlets use the same tactic. The absolute worse is the Huffington Post. They always write these scary, eye-popping, OMFG headlines that do not match the content in the same grandiose scale. Even Jon Stewart made fun of them this week. Having said that, the HP is NOT a major news outlet and a lot of their content is fluff. Major news outlets should take better caution to not mislead. I can guarantee you that they don't give a **** who reads the content, as long as the 'scary' headline sticks.
    Never watch Jon Stewart and you reminded me why I never read HuffPo.

    I take the assumption at this point that there are 3 kinds of people who read/watch Fox News: those that agree with every word they say, those that are open minded about what they say, and those that are just interested in ripping apart what they say.

    For the first group (probably the largest), they were going to vote against the Dems regardless of the accuracy of this headline or not.
    For the second group (like me), they probably don't base their votes on the number of people on welfare anyway, and they (like me) can't seem to find consensus anywhere on what is "welfare".
    For the third group, they seem to worry too much about the first group.

    If you read this thread, the definition of "welfare" is all across the board. So if you broadly define it, the headline is probably accurate. If you narrowly define it, the headline is wrong.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, we should abolish the system, just pay me back the money I've put in since age 14 and I'll take it from there....Thanks.
    Dare to dream....but I'm with you. Cut me a check tomorrow and we'll call it a day.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    The OP was intentionally misleading and dishonest. Why are the conservatives defending it?
    Because they are conservatives, any lie will do to smear the left.

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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Maybe it is partisanship, or repeating the same thing over and over and over, or the need for confirmation bias with a complete lack of critical thinking? I am not really sure exactly how the RWNM does it but it sure is effective.
    I work with a couple of people who are expert in web psychology, and what they tell me is truly fascinating. They have proven me wrong on a few occasions, so I know better not to doubt what they say.

    In this day of fingertip information, people are more lazy. So many website to visit, so little time. I am willing to bet that few people have even bothered to even click on the link in the OP, and I bet it's the same for most links provided here at DP. So outlets know they have a short attention span to garner interest, so they write these over the top headlines, that, in many cases, are enough to satisfy curiousity. This is why so many people are misinformed, even years after the story broke.
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    Re: Census figures show more than one-third of Americans receiving welfare benefits

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You're right, we should abolish the system, just pay me back the money I've put in since age 14 and I'll take it from there....Thanks.
    I've already spent it all, too bad!

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