DDD
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Oh, you think Putins returning the Crimea? Lol.
Nonsense. Did not even mention it.
Oh, you think Putins returning the Crimea? Lol.
Yes, Poroshenko and the separatists have agreed to that. Russia's not in Ukraine, remember.
It's not that hard to read. Georgia fired the first shots of that war. You could say they were provoked, but they fired first. Russian troops were there under the auspices of an agreement they had reached with Georgia with regards to South Ossetia. Georgia pulled out of the agreement (unilaterally), and decided that firing on the Russians was a good idea. Which it wasn't.
You're kidding right? An anonymous source and two blogs? Seriously? Wow such low standards.
I rest my case. There is no proof that the west was involved in overthrow of the Ukrainian government, protests, etc. etc. None! You people are just making stuff up to fit what you want to believe. You'd make state run Russian news proud!
No you don't see it for what it is..... The Ukraine was NEVER a threat to Russia and Russia is the aggressor...
Russia is being a bully, they pulled the same crap with Georgia 5-6 years ago.....
The most ironic part is I bet you're anti-bullying to boot.
That is such twisted logic...
No, Putin want's the Ukraine for it's resources - resources he can use to expand his desire to manifest a USSRII..
I don't fail to realize anything - what I see is a sovereign nation being hijacked and bullied.
Russia is **** and Putin is **** and if I was president none of this would even be happening now...
Oh and the UN - well they can suck my middle finger.. What are they going to do? sanction the US? yeah right!
And as evidenced by your support of US meddling and interference in the ME and Kiev, I can see that you aren't anti bullying.
You really do dislike your country, don't you? It's a shame. Fortunately not everyone thinks like you do.
Yeah well we're not reaching for a land grab to build a "Union."
And as evidenced by your support of US meddling and interference in the ME and Kiev, I can see that you aren't anti bullying.
Nonsense. Did not even mention it.
Oh, but that's not true. It's just that its done far more craftier.
Behind the U.S.-backed coup that ousted the democratically elected president of Ukraine are the economic interests of giant corporations – from Cargill to Chevron – which see the country as a potential “gold mine” of profits from agricultural and energy exploitation, reports JP Sottile.
Corporate Interests Behind Ukraine Putsch | Consortiumnews
Neither the whole of Ukraine will be in Russia, you remember that also.
Yeah, and in a fight you throw the first punch.
Also, it's not difficult to figure out you're being attacked before you're actually attacked.
If some dude came at me talking a bunch of random nonsense and I felt physically threatened I would knock his ass out - sure dude may have not thrown the first punch but........ That is the same situation when it comes to the Georgia/Russia conflict...
He hates his country with a passion unmatched by even the most ardent fan of Vladamir Putin. It's a gut level hatred that is not ever tested by facts or the real world.
Exploitation for sure...
I'm not "meddling" in anything and honestly if I was in Obamy's position Putin and this whole Ukraine nonsense would be a non-issue.
Obama is an idiot.
Ok, that was my only point.
I'm not "meddling" in anything and honestly if I was in Obamy's position Putin and this whole Ukraine nonsense would be a non-issue.
Obama is an idiot.
How so?
Apparently, you aren't aware of the history of NATO. GHWBUSH promised Gorbachev that their would be no NATO expansion eastward as the Soviet Union withdrew their troops (some 350,000) from Eastern Europe. We all have seen how that worked out, and this latest was yet another expansion to the east that Russia is attempting to check. But as I said before, it doesn't matter what you and I think, Putin clearly saw the events that unfolded last fall and winter as a Western backed coup to topple the Ukrainian government and install a pro-West government, and he has said so, Lavrov has said so, and they have called bull**** and responded accordingly.
Russia's not in Ukraine, remember.
No...just Russian-funded/armed terrorists.
Great! None of that proves Western involvement in the overthrow of Yanukovych, and none of that justifies Russia conquering part of a sovereign nation.