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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Lower Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California.
    Old history.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Elaborate...
    Unnecessary US involvement and support for the violent overthrow of the Ukraine government.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Unnecessary US involvement and support for the violent overthrow of the Ukraine government.
    Can you prove that?

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Old history.
    So, the claim was made that the US doesn't annex territory to advance its interests. That wasn't the only time it's been done either.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Can you prove that?
    There's been two or three threads in the European forum where that's been thoroughly documented.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    There's been two or three threads in the European forum where that's been thoroughly documented.
    So...no. You cannot prove it.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The dispute started when US troops crossed the border, the Rio Neuces and set up a camp. Seen as an intruding force by Mexico, they were attacked by an overwhelming force. The Rio Grande became the border in a treaty many years latter. So it was indeed US provocation that led to the war. But then Polk, campaigned in part on a platform of advancing manifest destiny and the annexation of lands to the pacific coast. And there were many at the time that wanted to push the US border to Mexico City.
    Except that it was Mexico that violated the Treaty of Velasaco, Rio Neuces was not the border, the border was the Rio Grande. And once again this was long prior to the Geneva Conventions' prohibition on territorial conquest through military force.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Unnecessary US involvement and support for the violent overthrow of the Ukraine government.
    Debunked nonsense, the claim that the U.S. funded the protests against Yanukovych is a proven lie despite how much RT and various other Russian State Owned Propaganda mills repeat it:

    US Did Not Spend $5 Billion to Destabilize Yanukovich

    This has been a war of aggression on the part of Russia from the beginning, first with economic warfare in order to prevent the Ukraine's right to self determination which prompted peaceful protests supported by the majority of Ukrainians which resulted in a Russian puppet at the direct behest of Putin, sending in his jack booted thugs to attack and murder the protesters which resulted in his impeachment followed by his treasonous self imposed exile to Russian occupied territory, then what happened next is Russia invaded, occupied, installed an occupation government with Spec Ops holding AKs and rocket launchers in the Crimean parliamentary building during the swearing in of a new Crimean "prime minister" and this was followed by the outright illegal annexation of sovereign Ukrainian territory by the Russian Federation through a fraudulent and illegal referendum in which only two options were offered cessation or annexation rather than maintaining the status quo and which did not allow for the majority of Ukrainians to participate, and which violated both the Ukrainian and Crimean Constitutions which mandated that all Ukrainians be allowed to participate in any referendum regarding changes of sovereign Ukrainian territory.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    It was a gift from Soviet Union. A gift can be taken back.
    However you put it it was an Invasion of a foreign country's territory.

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Russian support goes so far. Stalling out and the death of 1 million Russian to take western Ukraine would be a line that would lead to "revolution". So there is no point for Putin or Russian Government to push past the Dnieper.
    It may be a revolution all the way to Dnieper also.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    This all could have been avoided.
    It still can. Russia should back the f out!
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
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