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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    That is such twisted logic...

    No, Putin want's the Ukraine for it's resources - resources he can use to expand his desire to manifest a USSRII..

    I don't fail to realize anything - what I see is a sovereign nation being hijacked and bullied.

    Russia is **** and Putin is **** and if I was president none of this would even be happening now...

    Oh and the UN - well they can suck my middle finger.. What are they going to do? sanction the US? yeah right!
    Well, thankfully you aren't president, and Putin saw this for what it is, its irrelevant that you don't, and, Crimea is Russia! And Russia has preserved the warm water ports.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well, thankfully you aren't president, and Putin saw this for what it is, its irrelevant that you don't, and, Crimea is Russia! And Russia has preserved the warm water ports.
    No you don't see it for what it is..... The Ukraine was NEVER a threat to Russia and Russia is the aggressor...

    Russia is being a bully, they pulled the same crap with Georgia 5-6 years ago.....

    The most ironic part is I bet you're anti-bullying to boot.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No you don't see it for what it is..... The Ukraine was NEVER a threat to Russia and Russia is the aggressor...

    Russia is being a bully, they pulled the same crap with Georgia 5-6 years ago.....

    The most ironic part is I bet you're anti-bullying to boot.
    In regards to Georgia, if you actually follow the timeline of events, Georgia did some pretty stupid things that aggravate Russia and Georgia was under no allusion as to what would happen if they did exactly what they did.

    Georgia is a very different case then Ukraine.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    In regards to Georgia, if you actually follow the timeline of events, Georgia did some pretty stupid things that aggravate Russia and Georgia was under no allusion as to what would happen if they did exactly what they did.

    Georgia is a very different case then Ukraine.
    Yeah right - Russia just wanted an oil pipeline.

    Russia has no damn concept of paying for what they want - they just steal it via war.

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right - Russia just wanted an oil pipeline.

    Russia has no damn concept of paying for what they want - they just steal it via war.
    It's not that hard to read. Georgia fired the first shots of that war. You could say they were provoked, but they fired first. Russian troops were there under the auspices of an agreement they had reached with Georgia with regards to South Ossetia. Georgia pulled out of the agreement (unilaterally), and decided that firing on the Russians was a good idea. Which it wasn't.


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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Oh, you think Putins returning the Crimea? Lol.
    Nonsense. Did not even mention it.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yes, Poroshenko and the separatists have agreed to that. Russia's not in Ukraine, remember.
    Neither the whole of Ukraine will be in Russia, you remember that also.
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's not that hard to read. Georgia fired the first shots of that war. You could say they were provoked, but they fired first. Russian troops were there under the auspices of an agreement they had reached with Georgia with regards to South Ossetia. Georgia pulled out of the agreement (unilaterally), and decided that firing on the Russians was a good idea. Which it wasn't.
    Yeah, and in a fight you throw the first punch.

    Also, it's not difficult to figure out you're being attacked before you're actually attacked.

    If some dude came at me talking a bunch of random nonsense and I felt physically threatened I would knock his ass out - sure dude may have not thrown the first punch but........ That is the same situation when it comes to the Georgia/Russia conflict...

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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    You're kidding right? An anonymous source and two blogs? Seriously? Wow such low standards.

    I rest my case. There is no proof that the west was involved in overthrow of the Ukrainian government, protests, etc. etc. None! You people are just making stuff up to fit what you want to believe. You'd make state run Russian news proud!
    Yats is a blatant toadie. Just look at the partners for his foundation:

    Partners - Open Ukraine: Arseniy Yatsenyuk foundation

    One of his biggest backers is Ukrainian oligarch Victor Pinchuk, a close friend of the Clintons:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/13/us...tons.html?_r=0

    Pinchuk also is founder of the group YES-Ukraine, which includes many current and former high-level European officials on its board:

    YES Board - About YES - YES

    No wonder Yats was "the guy" for the West!
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    Re: Ukraine accuses Russia of launching invasion

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    No you don't see it for what it is..... The Ukraine was NEVER a threat to Russia and Russia is the aggressor...

    Russia is being a bully, they pulled the same crap with Georgia 5-6 years ago.....

    The most ironic part is I bet you're anti-bullying to boot.
    And as evidenced by your support of US meddling and interference in the ME and Kiev, I can see that you aren't anti bullying.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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