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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You said they have the same rights as people according to law and then linked wikipedia which says "The doctrine does not hold that corporations are flesh and blood "people" apart from their shareholders, executives, and managers, nor does it grant to corporations all of the rights of citizens." Which is not a law, nor does it back up your claim. Just say youre wrong.
    If you go on to read the rest, you'll see scotus decision after decision that grants these rights to corporations. Scotus decisions have the weight of law until reversed by scouts itself. So, while there may be no law specifically defining corporations as people, there is plethora of precedent doing just that.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

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    I am wondering how his constituents that are employed by Burger King feel about this. Way to throw them under the bus Sherrod.
    I love how democrats talk **** about corporations then act baffled when they move...

    Yeah well - if you talked your ass off about me in a room and degraded me because I left don't act shocked.

    The audacity of the left is astounding... In some weird way they actually believe the US government owns businesses, yet they deny they're socialists...

    Maybe they outta rethink their entire social and economic philosophy before they go denying their socialism/communism ideals.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    can you expand on that?

    my plan would be to debate a cap above which all income (including investment income) is taxed as income. i would raise the lower brackets slightly as well, so that the increased burden didn't fall solely on the very wealthy. probably 1990s marginal rates.
    Thats the same thing. Give everyone a 10k deduction, tax everything else, flat rate.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    If you go on to read the rest, you'll see scotus decision after decision that grants these rights to corporations. Scotus decisions have the weight of law until reversed by scouts itself. So, while there may be no law specifically defining corporations as people, there is plethora of precedent doing just that.
    So then you were wrong when you said there was a law which stated that corporations were the same as people.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    YOu know, I might be mistaken. I might have posted them in the other thread about this topic, so here it is, just for you (because you asked so nicely)

    International taxation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Look at the table
    The table is about individual taxation. Did you really post this twice on another thread or are you seriously mixing up topics. Regardless, corporate taxation is more complex than a simple yes or no in a Wikipedia table. It is also what is except and what receives foreign income tax credits.

    Not sure why you are trying to make this topic so simplistic. Yes, BK is doing this for both market and tax reasons. According to BK, it is mostly for the former.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Thats the same thing. Give everyone a 10k deduction, tax everything else, flat rate.
    i prefer marginal rates, though i support simplifying the tax code significantly.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    The table is about individual taxation. Did you really post this twice on another thread or are you seriously mixing up topics. Regardless, corporate taxation is more complex than a simple yes or no in a Wikipedia table. It is also what is except and what receives foreign income tax credits.

    Not sure why you are trying to make this topic so simplistic. Yes, BK is doing this for both market and tax reasons. According to BK, it is mostly for the former.
    Whether a nation uses territorial or residency based taxes is almost always the same for both individuals and corporations, as the link explains. And while different nations do have different sets of deductions, etc the fact is that most nations do tax the income earned overseas by businesses which reside in their nation.

    And I don't know where you got the idea that I'm simplifying the issue. It's very complex. IMO, the one's simplifying the issue are those calling for elimination of the corporate income tax.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    i prefer marginal rates, though i support simplifying the tax code significantly.
    The complexity of the tax code is based on the calculation of income. It gets complex because of all the deductions (ie depreciation, amortization, differenting between expenses and investments, etc) used to calculate taxable income. Once the taxable income is calculated, a progressive tax is not complex. All you do is look up your rate in a table and multiply.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The complexity of the tax code is based on the calculation of income. It gets complex because of all the deductions (ie depreciation, amortization, differenting between expenses and investments, etc) used to calculate taxable income. Once the taxable income is calculated, a progressive tax is not complex. All you do is look up your rate in a table and multiply.
    our tax code is way too complicated. i think that we could simplify it significantly so that the average person could figure it out intuitively.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    our tax code is way too complicated. i think that we could simplify it significantly so that the average person could figure it out intuitively.
    I agree. My point isn't that it's not complex; it's that having tax brackets is not what makes it complex.

    What makes it complex is calculating (taxable) income which, by it's nature, is complex. However, we have added unnecessary complexity for political reasons.
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