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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    The little guy would do it if he could, which means everyone is slimy. Which means no one is.
    Interesting logic. And incorrect, as most absolutist arguments are.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

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    Who said they were "flesh and blood people"?
    You did

    According to US law, Corporations are people with all the same rights and responsibilities.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Interesting logic. And incorrect, as most absolutist arguments are.
    Its your opinion that the little guy doesnt use every 'loophole' they can find?

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal


    UPDATE:

    Burger King announced yesterday they are keeping their headquarters in Miami, Florida.

    In other words they are staying in the US.
    MIAMI, Aug. 29 (UPI) -- Those employed by Burger King's headquarters in Miami are breathing easier. The company said it won't be moving out of Miami for now.
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    Burger King to keep headquarters in Miami - UPI.com
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    You did
    Corporations are people....not in a literal sense, but in a philosophical and legal sense.
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Corporations are people....not in a literal sense, but in a philosophical and legal sense.
    You said
    Corporations are people with all the same rights and responsibilities.
    Your Wiki link says
    nor does it grant to corporations all of the rights of citizens.
    I gonna guess you still don't see your fail
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Its your opinion that the little guy doesnt use every 'loophole' they can find?
    there's a difference between a small business using a minor loophole to save a little money and a global corporation using a headquartering scam to avoid almost all taxes. sort of like the difference between a playground fistfight and a world war.

    either way, my plan would solve it : cut the corporate tax rate significantly, collect it from every corporation, and tax individual income instead.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    there's a difference between a small business using a minor loophole to save a little money and a global corporation using a headquartering scam to avoid almost all taxes. sort of like the difference between a playground fistfight and a world war.

    either way, my plan would solve it : cut the corporate tax rate significantly, collect it from every corporation, and tax individual income instead.
    As per your plan, outgoing Ways and Means Chair Dave Camp was surprisingly allowed to put forth his tax rewrite overhaul.
    McConnell promptly declared it DOA--and it never saw the light of day on the House floor.

    Retiring Camp was term-limited as Chair, which Rep. P. Ryan takes over next year.
    My gut feeling on Ryan is he wants to do the right thing--but he bounces back-and-forth because of TEA-pressures.

    I'd love to see Ryan forget about being President as long as he's allowed to be Chair of W&M and get the House in order.
    Ryan's a protege of Jack Kemp as I'm sure you know and I often call him the most knowledgeable man in DC on the economy.

    We haven't had a shutdown so far this year due to the "small" agreement between Ryan and Sen. Murray, crafted in secrecy.
    Yet a small cut in COLA to Veteran's pensions was fought off by neos and military-state pols from both parties, costing the Treasury billions.
    The decreases in the increases to the budget must be brought under control in all sectors, IMHO; the guts of any grand-bargain .
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post

    UPDATE:

    Burger King announced yesterday they are keeping their headquarters in Miami, Florida.

    In other words they are staying in the US.


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    Burger King to keep headquarters in Miami - UPI.com
    Just because they are keeping their HQ in the US, does not mean they are keeping their tax registration. After all officially Apple is a US company with their HQ in the US, but their whole tax avoidance system has them tax wise being registered in Ireland and elsewhere.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

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    1. You are too funny. I think Bloomberg did a fine job. He's pro business, I thought the right liked that. He also tried to deal with obesity. He may have been wrong and it probably didn't accomplish much but at least he highlighted the problem. Tell what "freedoms" were denied to New Yorkers under his administration other than mega big gulps? Authoritarian rule? Please. Try living in the Middle East.

    2. You have no idea what you are talking about. New high rises are going up all the time. They are required to have some low income housing but the rest is for the wealthy. Times square is now a tourists paradise, most of the peep shows and dilapidated buildings are gone. Housing prices are increasing throughout all the boroughs. If anything the poor are being pushed out of the city. (Much of this under Bloomberg) The latest are tech companies. They are popping up in NYC left and right.

    3., 4. Until you are prepared to keep people from entering an emergency room unless they can pay or have proper insurance it sure is a right in the US. At least economically. I disagree in principal and freely admit I believe its a right. As long as we are required to continue to treat everyone it makes much more economic sense (and I would argue moral) to have everyone be insured and prevent illnesses from becoming much more expensive ailments.
    1. Reason mag had a pretty good take on the progressive anti freedom putz that is Bloomberg....

    "Bloomberg is an authoritarian. He's not an authoritarian in the way Josef Stalin or Pol Pot was authoritarian, but every instinct tells you he's a man who would use any power given to him to govern every aspect of public and private life whenever necessary -- or, more precisely, whenever he finds it necessary, which is frequently. All said, he's exactly the type of person who makes the Constitution a necessity.
    Anyone who believes your caloric intake is government's prime concern should be watched carefully, of course; but no matter what crusade the man's on, his rationalization for limiting personal freedom is a dangerous one. Some of his proposals are popular (smoking bans), and others are less so (limiting portion sizes and banning ingredients), but all of them set precedents that distort the relationship between government and citizens. The jump from minor infringements on personal liberty to giant ones is a shorter one than you think. Allow a politician to tell you what your portion sizes should be and the next thing you know you're letting Washington force you to buy insurance you don't want.
    If the Bloomberg administration believes that salt -- "the greatest public health threat facing" New York City -- is worth losing your freedom over, imagine what he'd have planned after a terrorist attack.


    Read more: Michael Bloomberg's Authoritarian Instincts - Reason.com

    2. Wrong again....According to Investors business daily:

    "If there is anything New York doesn't need it's more reasons for Empire State residents to flee.
    Over the last decade (2001-11) New York's population fell by 1.6 million. Many disgruntled New Yorkers said enough, packed up and left the state. This was a larger population drain than suffered by any other state. Congratulations.


    Read More At Investor's Business Daily: New York Finds High Taxes Send State's Wealthy Fleeing - Investors.com
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    3. Until "I" am prepared? So I have to change to your warped way of thinking about our constitution and rights eh?

    NO!

    Show me in the constitution where Health care, or Medical services are in the bill of rights.....I'll wait.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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