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Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

Phoenix said:
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I am wondering how his constituents that are employed by Burger King feel about this. Way to throw them under the bus Sherrod.
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You know this country has gone stark raving mad when a sitting US Senator calls for a boycott a business that employs thousands of people and is collaterally responsible for the well being of probably thousands of suppliers to that business.

What a stupid and irresponsible thing for him to do. Proof positive that our politicians are hopelessly clueless.
 
Fenton said:
Well, Corporations and Businesses seem to be moving out of High tax States and into lower tax States.

AND moving out if the US entirely.

So it would seem tax rates are primarily responsible for their decision to vacate.
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To be fair, labor laws are also a large incentive for relocation as well as energy costs. There are a multitude of reasons but taxation is a major issue that jurisdictions can readily use to attract business.
 
**** him and **** Warren "Raise my taxes" Buffet; that hypocrite.

I don't blame Burger King at all, in fact... though I don't often do fast food. I think I'll go get a whopper, to support another Atlas who has Shrugged.

To all you looters, chasing tax revenue chases it away, stop chasing away companies.
 
Didn't Rand die of lung cancer?
 
Phoenix said:
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I am wondering how his constituents that are employed by Burger King feel about this. Way to throw them under the bus Sherrod.
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Well, Wendys and White Castle are HQed in Columbus Ohio. Course he would say that.. shameless plug for a Senator who only won his seat due to a 3rd party candidate.
 
Buffet is underwriting Obesity King's move which completely wipes out your rant on him..
As he has underwritten many other inversions.
He's one of you--please check your sources next time .
Lachean said:
**** him and **** Warren "Raise my taxes" Buffet; that hypocrite.

I don't blame Burger King at all, in fact... though I don't often do fast food. I think I'll go get a whopper, to support another Atlas who has Shrugged.

To all you looters, chasing tax revenue chases it away, stop chasing away companies.
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If you want to boycott them then boycott them. If you want to campaign to boycott them, then do that too. I will probably stop going there myself. However, they still should have the right to move their headquarters, if they so choose.
 
Amandi said:
If you want to boycott them then boycott them. If you want to campaign to boycott them, then do that too. I will probably stop going there myself. However, they still should have the right to move their headquarters, if they so choose.
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Then why would you stop going there? How have they wronged you?
 
I read an article and I can't find it again that claimed the tax difference is about 1%. My guess is the move is due to some other reason. My OP was really intended to point out the stupidity of boycotting an employer in your own state
 
Montecresto said:
Again, my issue is people quoting the tax rate as though its the actual rate that corporations pay.
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I think everyone knows that taxes are subject to deductions and that everyone everywhere pays "the effective tax rate" instead of the statutory tax rate. The fact of the matter is that our tax rate doesn't net out to be a very good deal for business or they'd be relocating here instead of everywhere else.
 
And as for boycotting Burger King..... I don't know how they convince anyone to buy any of their crap in the first place.
 
What percentage of Burger King's revenue comes from the U.S.? I'd wager it's the majority.

So U.S. governments (at all levels) should get their piece of that commerce, if anyone should.

They pay for access to the market, and for the services those governments provide.

Would reducing the Corporate tax, and adding a VAT be acceptable to you corporate tax haters?
 
Papa bull said:
I think everyone knows that taxes are subject to deductions and that everyone everywhere pays "the effective tax rate" instead of the statutory tax rate. The fact of the matter is that our tax rate doesn't net out to be a very good deal for business or they'd be relocating here instead of everywhere else.
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The interesting thing is that liberals also call those deductions loopholes, and want to get rid of them to make companies pay even more. They think companies pay too little, not too much.
 
WillyPete said:
What percentage of Burger King's revenue comes from the U.S.? I'd wager it's the majority.

So U.S. governments (at all levels) should get their piece of that commerce, if anyone should.

They pay for access to the market, and for the services those governments provide.

Would reducing the Corporate tax, and adding a VAT be acceptable to you corporate tax haters?
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No, a VAT is worse because it applies a hidden tax at every level of production, which makes things more complicated, not less. Furthermore, a company simply passes down any cost, including taxes to the consumer. WHich means there is no purpose in paying taxes for corporations (other than certain fees for specific services). I as an individual already pay for 'access to the market' and services. What more am I getting with any taxes my business might pay?
 
Fenton said:
Well the issue remains and this idiot of a Politician completely missed the point.

America's High Corporate tax rate is COSTING us revenues......and jobs.
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If the 1% need to 'pay their fair share' as Obama, Reid and any other Democrats insist, I guess the loss of jobs and revenues that directly and negatively impact the non-1%ers is their fair share?

My, how comforting that it'll be for them when they are in the unemployment line and / or can't pay their grocery (or other) bills.
 
Until Congress learns how to balance a budget...hell...PASS a ****ing budget,every American owned major corporation should look to go elsewhere or just hibernate for a few years.

It takes total chutzpah for ANY elected representative to talk **** about 'responsibility'.
 
jonny5 said:
No, a VAT is worse because it applies a hidden tax at every level of production, which makes things more complicated, not less. Furthermore, a company simply passes down any cost, including taxes to the consumer. WHich means there is no purpose in paying taxes for corporations (other than certain fees for specific services). I as an individual already pay for 'access to the market' and services. What more am I getting with any taxes my business might pay?
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Indeed. A VAT tax is the most regressive tax system imaginable. It causes damage down the entire value chain from front to back, and places the highest burden on the consumer.

No, the real solution is to get the government to spend less, tax less, and simply do less, and that which it does and should do, it should do more efficiently and more effectively, requiring less cost and expense. Government is overhead, and as such, overhead can't consume the host that it's getting it's revenues from. That's just plain fiscal madness.
 
jonny5 said:
No, a VAT is worse because it applies a hidden tax at every level of production, which makes things more complicated, not less. Furthermore, a company simply passes down any cost, including taxes to the consumer. WHich means there is no purpose in paying taxes for corporations (other than certain fees for specific services). I as an individual already pay for 'access to the market' and services. What more am I getting with any taxes my business might pay?
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I'm talking about the corporation's access to the marketplace (you,) not your individual access to the marketplace.

It seems to me that we are undervaluing the customer's role in this, by allowing Burger King and other to profit in our markets while sidestepping the taxes.

A VAT would address this, by tying the tax to the transactions directly. I'm not saying it's ideal or that's there's no better way, but at least a larger portion of the taxes would be going to the regions that generate the demand.
 
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NIMBY said:
Buffet is underwriting Obesity King's move which completely wipes out your rant on him..
As he has underwritten many other inversions.
He's one of you--please check your sources next time .
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Curious about who you mean when you say 'you'. He regularly hangs out with Obama and in fact was kinda his go to financial guru. You know...that same Obama that spends hours on the golf course with lobbyists and representatives of (gasp) Bain Financial, amongst other robber baron finanical organizations.

'You'...who?
 
I used to go to Burger King for lunch, since it was down the road from the Auto Parts store I worked at in college. I got a burger with frozen lettuce on it and cold fries. I stopped going. 2 years later, my friends drove for lunch, wanted Burger King. I protested, but agree to go. I got a burger, with frozen lettuce on it. So, I am already boycotting, but for different reasons. Maybe I'll lift the boycott, since I support their decision to run their company and make profits for the shareholders. Maybe after 33 years, I can get a well made burger?
 
Anthony60 said:
I used to go to Burger King for lunch, since it was down the road from the Auto Parts store I worked at in college. I got a burger with frozen lettuce on it and cold fries. I stopped going. 2 years later, my friends drove for lunch, wanted Burger King. I protested, but agree to go. I got a burger, with frozen lettuce on it. So, I am already boycotting, but for different reasons. Maybe I'll lift the boycott, since I support their decision to run their company and make profits for the shareholders. Maybe after 33 years, I can get a well made burger?
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I was about to post mostly the same story. Plus, if they start selling Tim Bits.....
 
jonny5 said:
Then why would you stop going there? How have they wronged you?
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If I have multiple similar products to choose from and I don't like the actions of one of the companies providing those products, I will choose to not buy the product of that company.
 
jonny5 said:
Then why would you stop going there? How have they wronged you?
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I stopped going there quite a while ago.

Here in Mexico they switched from Coke to Pepsi and that is a big No-No for me.

They save a little on the price but we as customers have to drink that stuff. Pepsi tastes terrible here in Mexico.
 
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