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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean to say that you too think the only reason corporations relocate is for lower taxes? I'm not surprised.
    No, they relocate for a number of reasons. The issue here, though, is taxes.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, they relocate for a number of reasons. The issue here, though, is taxes.

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    You too dude.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Have you considered that the rate they actually pay is still higher than in Canada?
    Of course.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If the claim is that they are people, then they can pay like people pay. What? You like giving them the convenience of personhood without the bills? If they can influence our government, then they can damned well pay for the maitnance and upkeep on the government. Ain't no such thing as a free lunch "libertarian".
    They are like people, they arent people.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Thanks for being a conservative on this thread with a great demeanor.
    The "Linc" in me is reemerging and I'm happy about that.

    I quoted this part of your post for a reason.

    Don't wait until you retire before you take long road trips in the USA, not to mention your own great Canada.
    I still remember the sight of the Regina skyline when we seemed to come around a big bend on Canada 1 IIRC.
    Now Thunder Bay, there's a wild-ass town.
    The Al-Can to Alaska--the Icefields Parkway from Banff to Jasper--the diagonal from Golden, BC to Vancouver and so many more.

    On a solo to Utah once to see a recommended place known as the "slot canyons", I hiked with a great couple from Toronto.
    They were into the greenhouse business growing things like tomatoes.

    It's still the people you meet, the places you go and the things you do on these trips.
    It made going back to teach all the more inspiring for me .
    All that sounds great.

    I haven't done much traveling recently because of family illnesses and having to take care of parents in their last years. I've been retired for about 4 years now and I'm still not at a point where I'm ready to do anything and now my dog is in her last year(s) so another responsibility that comes first. I do enjoy road trips and you're right, the interesting people and sometimes downright strange people make the journeys lots of fun and memorable.

    Glad you enjoyed your time away this summer.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    They are like people, they arent people.
    Tis true, yet they can contribute to the political system and influence our government; they can pay for that. No such thing as a free lunch.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    A VAT is functionally equivalent (in theory) to a retail sales tax, or at least that is the way VAT's operate in most of the developed world. Producers get a credit for the VAT paid at earlier levels of production/distribution. The only step where there is no credit is the final sale to the non-business consumer, who pays the total VAT accumulated during production and distribution at point of sale.

    The advantages of a VAT to the RST are administrative, and historical. The credit makes it easier to enforce a VAT - there is no advantage to an upstream buyer for downstream producers to evade the VAT because evasion reduces the credit available. Also, the RST has traditionally excluded most services, but the VAT taxes 'value added' which would effectively include all services in the tax base. So the base is broader and enforcement arguably easier, which allows for a lower rate to collect the same revenue

    Two big advantages to a VAT over RST - businesses pay a lot of RST, maybe 40%, depending on the estimate, and exported goods include that imbedded RST in the cost, raising the after tax cost for U.S. made goods. With a VAT, 100% of the tax paid during U.S. production can be rebated at the border and goods exported free of VAT, which should increase the competitiveness of U.S. made goods relative to current law. And VAT is fully assessed on all imports.
    But the problem is the VAT has to be factored at every level, which raises complexity (and thus cost), and tax becomes hidden once its laundered through multiple levels, such that the final consumer may not know how much tax has been included along the way. It allows for meddling by politicians. Which isnt that much different than corporate tax, really. But i dont support either. Corporations should not pay taxes at all, just individuals.

    What about value-added taxes (VATs), like they have in Europe and Canada? Are they not consumption taxes?

    While VATs are also consumption taxes, and better than income taxes, the FairTax is not a VAT. A VAT works very differently. It taxes every stage of production. It is much more complex and is typically hidden from the retail consumer. Second, in industrialized countries that have a VAT, it coexists with high-rate income tax, payroll, and many other taxes that, in some instances, have led to marginal tax rates as high as 70 percent. Third, all other industrialized countries, except Australia and Japan, have a much larger tax burden than the U.S., which requires higher rates and makes tax administration much more difficult. Lastly, a VAT is a lobbyist’s dream, allowing them to install their loopholes unbeknownst to the purchaser. A retail sales tax, in contrast, is a lobbyist’s nightmare, applied as it is under the bright lights of the retail counter.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Tis true, yet they can contribute to the political system and influence our government; they can pay for that. No such thing as a free lunch.
    No they cant, the people who own them can. They are people. Corporations are not.

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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    yes we need a nanny state...
    Thank you for your contribution to the ever increasing obesity / diabetes epidemic this country is facing. It took laws to get people to wear bicycle and motor cycle helmets and car seat belts. Many didn't want to comply with the "nanny state". Turns out it saved a lot of lives and more importantly to the Libertarian freaks it significantly lowered heath care and emergency room costs while increasing their capacity. Reduced the amount of organ donors but there is a cost to everything. Its one thing if a moron wants to take chances where the consequences only effect that individual. Its another where those consequences affect many others. The helmets and seatbelts reduced helped make sure if I or anyone need emergency care it would be available. It also lowered health care costs which we all pay one way or another. Healthcare is not an unlimited resource, its time we started doing something to reduce its consumption not to mention help people live better, healthier lives.
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    Re: Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown calls for Burger King boycott over Tim Hortons deal

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    VAT's are a bad idea since Canada has one right?
    But inversions are a good idea since Canada allows them right?
    And IKE was not a holy grail DEM right?

    IIRC, President Eisenhower had the most progressive tax structure of any POTUS since WW2.
    And GOPs love to point out that JFK began changing that.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong on any of this since I'm not an "expert" on the economy as Boehner has also said many times.

    And I'll repeat myself from past posts.
    The sooner both camps look back at the "small" agreement between Rep. Ryan and Sen. Murray from last December the better.
    It has prevented government shutdowns ever since .
    1. I am not for any additional taxation on anyone. The government gets enough of my hard earned money. Let them learn how to live within their means.

    2. I personally am for a flat tax.

    3. I could care less how Canada deals with their financial situations, that is for them to decide, and they make those decisions. So, you'd do better to not try to put words into my mouth and simply address what I say. Thanks.
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