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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    OH FFS I forgot about that ad, and how disgusted I was by it.

    Yeah, Paul Ryan, the old lady murderer.
    OMG! That's the first time I have seen that! Some idiot actually used that ad? :

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    OMG! That's the first time I have seen that! Some idiot actually used that ad? :

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    Hey Pol! You didn't see that ad during the 2012 campaign? It was played repeatedly in NH. It made my blood boil.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by DifferentDrummr View Post
    The thread topic isn't leadership in Washington; it's the use of inappropriate content in the ad.
    And one can absolutely feel it's appropriate by agreeing that leadership in washington is poor and that said poor leadership is connected with the situtaion that led to foley's death, and as such showing it is fair game.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    That ad really doesn't tell me that Weh would be any different. Just posting your opponent in a bad light doesn't really say anything good about yourself. Even a quick look at his website doesn't even show anything more than the usual rhetoric. That's the thing that bothers me most about politicians on both sides, the bull**** vague promises of something better. Atleast he served our country which is more than most of the current senators can say.

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    That's one of the sad realities of the political world that makes you quickly become disheartened when you first get into political science.

    A lot of people seem to talk about how they'd rather positive and pro-active campaigns aimed at a candidate talking about themselves and their own vision....but time and again it seems when researched that negative campaigning and focusing on an opponent tends to be more successful.

    We like to think we want the positive, but it seems that people by and large are more motivated by the negative.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Hey Pol! You didn't see that ad during the 2012 campaign? It was played repeatedly in NH. It made my blood boil.
    No, thankfully I didn't! My blood ran cold from shock seeing it now - I can see why yours would boil during the very dirty campaign that we had in 2012! I would have been screaming in outrage that someone would be so trashy and evil to run an ad about what could be someone's grandma! That far exceeds the limits of decency, and would have been unthinkable not too many years ago - no wonder our country is heading for the edge of the cliff!

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And one can absolutely feel it's appropriate by agreeing that leadership in washington is poor and that said poor leadership is connected with the situtaion that led to foley's death, and as such showing it is fair game.
    Talk about a stretch on association and spinning.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Talk about a stretch on association and spinning.
    You mean pretty much the common, every day, hammer and screw driver of political campaigns? Yep, I agree.

    It's not that much of a stretch. It's the type of argument being made in politics for years. Our actions abroad, ie our foreign policy, has impact on what happens abroad.

    Suggesting our foreign policy in that part of the world helped foment a situation where ISIS was able to come to be and where they felt emboldened enough to take said action against Foley is no different than what we've seen for ages in politics. For example how often did you hear suggestions that our foreign policy in terms of giving aid to israel helped create a situation where 9/11 would happen?

    Again, criticizing it as being distasteful is perfectly reasonable imho. Suggesting it's a bit of a stretch or spinning is abosolutely reasonable too. But acting like it's some kind of agahst or unthinking able or confusing level of spinning or stretch compared to pretty much every other political race that generally happens? I just don't really see it.

    This is largely what I expect out of campaigns and politicians, and it's why I don't get amazingly upset or aghast at things like this or Ryan murdering granny. This is the kind of stupid thing politics is in this country, and we the public are in part at fault for that since we're the ones by and large seemingly giving it positive feedback. I generally expect politicians to act like politicians and don't tend to hold that massively against them unless the very nature of NOT being a politician is the primary thing they're pushing about themselves.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You mean every day general politics? Yeah.

    It's not that much of a stretch. It's the type of argument being made in politics for years. Our actions abroad, ie our foreign policy, has impact on what happens abroad.

    Suggesting our foreign policy in that part of the world helped foment a situation where ISIS was able to come to be and where they felt emboldened enough to take said action against Foley is no different than what we've seen for ages in politics. For example how often did you hear suggestions that our foreign policy in terms of giving aid to israel helped create a situation where 9/11 would happen?

    Again, criticizing it as being distasteful is perfectly reasonable imho. Suggesting it's a bit of a stretch or spinning is abosolutely reasonable too. But acting like it's some kind of agahst or unthinking able or confusing level of spinning or stretch compared to pretty much every other political race that generally happens? I just don't really see it.
    I have no argument about our foreign policies affecting things abroad, it's the spinning that it is all ONE party as this ad does. It's a far stretch to associate ONE party for the blame.

    Like it or not, the GOP ALSO voted against action in Syria.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I have no argument about our foreign policies affecting things abroad, it's the spinning that it is all ONE party as this ad does. It's a far stretch to associate ONE party for the blame.
    Well...yeah. But seriously, how many non-primary ad's from either party do you see ever criticizing their own party even if it's something they're also guilty about? I mean, being upset or surprise or offended by a political ad being one sided is akin to being upset that the sun rose this morning or that water is wet.

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    Re: GOP Campaign ad exploits Foley's beheading

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Well...yeah. But seriously, how many non-primary ad's from either party do you see ever criticizing their own party even if it's something they're also guilty about? I mean, being upset or surprise or offended by a political ad being one sided is akin to being upset that the sun rose this morning or that water is wet.
    Using in ANY way Foley for a partisan ad is simply disrespectful. That is the point. I don't expect the GOP to not point out their faults, but to use Foley in this way (even if it is by association) is both disrespectful and the candidate has shown he really doesn't care about Foley. Now, if the GOP wants to support that it says more about them.

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