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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Absolutely he should say no if he has any misgivings about the safety of the participant. Just because something is legal does not absolve one of responsibility or personal judgement.
    You seem to be missing what I'm saying. How do we know he had misgivings? You're assuming he did.

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I'm sure his ghost feels much better that it was legal.

    I'm not going to run around saying "ban all the guns," but it takes a special kind of stupid to give an automatic weapon to a child and then stand nearby.
    I agree that it's stupid for a 9 year old to shoot an Uzi. I think it's stupid for a 49 year old to shoot one. But if this didn't happen, we wouldn't be having this discussion. None of us know how many times in the past stupid parents allowed and encouraged their 9 year old to shoot an Uzi. For all we know, it could be happening every minute. The stupidity here was the parents. But for the grace of doG, she just as easily could have shot herself.

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I agree. The parents thought it would be probably be funny to have the video. Something they can share to their in-law cousins while sipping Moonshine from mason jars while sitting in their single wide.
    They were from the Northeast

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by Winchester View Post
    Are you kidding me? It was his responsibility because he was the trained professional. Legality does nothing to absolve him from responsibility for his actions. It was clear the girl knew nothing or very little about firearms or firearm safety and was too small and weak to handle an automatic weapon and yet he went ahead and put a loaded Uzi in her hands and he's not responsible in any way? WTF
    The parents were responsible for allowing it but he was responsible for not doing his job properly. He didnt have to refuse, if he had retained control of the weapon, he'd still be alive. He made a mistake and it could have cost other people their lives too.

    Making mistakes is human...sometimes justifiable, sometimes not....but since many activities are inherently dangerous AND we are dependent on the fallibility of other humans, accidents happen.
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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    They were from the Northeast
    We don't drink moonshine up here.

    Where were they from do you know?

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    They were from the Northeast
    Where in the Northeast? There are certain parts of New England that...well....


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    The decision making is poor. Gun rights are not the issue and shouldn't be the issue. The events you gave are good examples. Turning this discussion from guns should not be allowed in the hands of the American citizenry would be like saying the solution to the levees is not have cities near the water.
    You are exactly right Blue_State. Even though we will have disagreements about gun rights in itself, I can't pin this on gun rights. This is just 100% bad decision making all around in which both parties being the parents and the instructor ignored fire arm safety.

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I agree. The parents thought it would be probably be funny to have the video. Something they can share to their in-law cousins while sipping Moonshine from mason jars while sitting in their single wide.
    I'm pretty sure that they were from New Jersey.

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    Re: 9 year old girl kills instructor accidentally with UZI

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The parents were responsible for allowing it but he was responsible for not doing his job properly. He didnt have to refuse, if he had retained control of the weapon, he'd still be alive. He made a mistake and it could have cost other people their lives too.

    Making mistakes is human...sometimes justifiable, sometimes not....but since many activities are inherently dangerous AND we are dependent on the fallibility of other humans, accidents happen.
    I have to agree, he was responsible for his own actions and untimely death.

    The parents are responsible for allowing the event to take place, we have no idea what they told the instructor about their daughters previous experience or if she had any at all. The parents had to sign some sort of consent form with the Range when they paid for the instructor services, which would be nice to see what kind of questions were asked on it. Very little information has been released about the Range and their responsibilities to protect the customers and other people in the area.

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