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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Typical conservative position. The regions oil belongs to the world. I've got news for you Grant, that's not democratic at all. And that the US being at war with Middle East nations is better then them being at war between themselves is one of the reasons I resent your constant volunteering of Americans blood and treasure. Get Canada to do more!
    Um... no. Not any more than America's natural resources belong to the world. It's their oil, they get to decide what to do with it. Where did you get that idiotic idea anyhow?
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    The nonpartisan Government Accountability Office said the Defense Department failed to notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the exchange — a clear violation of the law — and used $988,400 of a wartime account to make the transfer. The GAO also said the Pentagon's use of funds that hadn't been expressly appropriated violated the Antideficiency Act......snip~


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    A couple of countries recognized them. also...we didn't recognize the North Vietnamese government yet exchanged prisoners with the government. There's a difference between diplomatic recognition and reality.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Roadvirus View Post
    A deserter POW for 5 high-level/dangerous terrorists.

    Obama's a piss-poor trader.
    Then the Army should prosecute him, I don't think it's right to presume guilt and allow him to die as a POW.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    The comparison was the destination.
    Many people travel to Mexico. It is the if not the second most US active border. To think someone could mistakenly enter the country and be detained is reasonable. It has in fact happened. It is a mistake. A person taking a tour of North Korea is not a mistake.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    No, second would be China, followed by Iran... but mostly as a reseller of Russian weapons.
    Worlds largest arms dealers

    2013 rank Supplier Arms exports
    1 Russia 8283
    2 United States 6153
    3 China 1837
    4 France 1489
    7 United Kingdom 1394
    5 Germany 972
    6 Italy 807
    8 Israel 773
    9 Spain 605
    10 Ukraine 589
    11 Sweden 505
    12 Belarus 338
    13 South Korea 307
    14 Netherlands 302
    15 Switzerland 205
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Then the Army should prosecute him, I don't think it's right to presume guilt and allow him to die as a POW.
    I agree with you. As far as Roadvirus' second point of being a poor trader...I agree with him too.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He is a deserter and a traitor and I hope they lock him up and throw away tthe key.
    I do as well if he's prosecuted as both. That doesn't change the fact I don't want any serviceman left over seas
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I agree with you. As far as Roadvirus' second point of being a poor trader...I agree with him too.
    Yeah, I agree with that as well. I think our de-escalation in Afghanistan played a major part in that.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Um... no. Not any more than America's natural resources belong to the world. It's their oil, they get to decide what to do with it. Where did you get that idiotic idea anyhow?
    Cephus!?!? Did you read what Grant said to me? It's his position that the ME's oil belongs to the world. I was pointing out his position in my post you quoted. I believe that the ME oil belongs to the citizens of the ME and they should nationalise it and enjoy the proceeds.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Worlds largest arms dealers

    2013 rank Supplier Arms exports
    1 Russia 8283
    2 United States 6153
    3 China 1837
    4 France 1489
    7 United Kingdom 1394
    5 Germany 972
    6 Italy 807
    8 Israel 773
    9 Spain 605
    10 Ukraine 589
    11 Sweden 505
    12 Belarus 338
    13 South Korea 307
    14 Netherlands 302
    15 Switzerland 205

    You've gone back to making the same straw man argument. It isn't about the amount of weaponry sold, it is about who it was sold to. Russian weaponry has killed far more civilians than US weapons have... but I am sure you aren't counting the millions dead at the hands of the Chinese, the North Koreans, the Viet Cong and The Khmer Rouge just for starters.

    Also note that your new evidence for your straw man argument proves your initial argument was also false:

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry dude. The United States is the biggest weapons dealer
    Again, FALSE!
    Last edited by jmotivator; 08-27-14 at 05:00 PM.
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