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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It is funny how when the US attacks an Islamic country the US is responsible for creating terrorists. When the Soviets attack an Islamic country the US is also responsible to creating terrorists.

    You have your history of Afghanistan incredibly screwed up. The remains of the US involvement in Afghanistan was the Northern Alliance, a moderate, pro-west, pro-human rights group.

    The radical Islamists flocked to Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, not the US.

    It's essentially the same nonsense that had brain dead people claiming for 20 years that the US made Saddam Hussein the threat he was... all while Saddam tooled around Iraq and Kuwait killing innocent civilians with Soviet armor and weaponry.
    Sorry dude. The United States is the biggest weapons dealer, and both directly and indirectly we are responsible for more then most in terms of human suffering. Afghanistan is Russia's neighbour, and we shouldn't have been there, not in 1980 nor in 2001. And a majority of Americans now view A-Stan as such.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You made reference to a man who brought weapons into Mexico and is now in jail.

    Isn't that right?

    You are comparing Mexico to the middle east. They are very different.
    No, I compared someone going on a recreational tour vs making a wrong turn.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry dude. The United States is the biggest weapons dealer, and both directly and indirectly we are responsible for more then most in terms of human suffering. Afghanistan is Russia's neighbour, and we shouldn't have been there, not in 1980 nor in 2001. And a majority of Americans now view A-Stan as such.
    I made no claim about who sells more weapons, I am making a specific point hat the Soviets and now the Russians have had an amazing track record of arming the brutal regimes of the world.

    Assad is killing Syrians with Russian hardware.

    Saddam's army was made up entirely of Soviet made weaponry.

    Iran's army is armed by ... hey look, the Russians.

    Hamas fires... hey look, Russian rockets! And hey, they have Russian assault rifles... hmmm... there is a trend here.

    Boko Haram uses... hey look! Russian weapons.

    The Taliban use.... hey look! Russian weapons.

    Al Qaeda uses... hey look! Russian weapons.

    Libya... Russian.

    Venzuela... Russian.

    Cuba... Russian.

    And on and on.

    The only bad actor in the world right now that doesn't use Russian weaponry almost exclusively is ISIS but that is mostly because their weapons were taken of the bodies of the dead Iraqis defending their country who were the people the US armed.

    You can't sweep this simple truth aside just because the US sells fighter jets to Canada.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I made no claim about who sells more weapons, I am making a specific point hat the Soviets and now the Russians have had an amazing track record of arming the brutal regimes of the world.

    Assad is killing Syrians with Russian hardware.

    Saddam's army was made up entirely of Soviet made weaponry.

    Iran's army is armed by ... hey look, the Russians.

    Hamas fires... hey look, Russian rockets! And hey, they have Russian assault rifles... hmmm... there is a trend here.

    Boko Haram uses... hey look! Russian weapons.

    The Taliban use.... hey look! Russian weapons.

    Al Qaeda uses... hey look! Russian weapons.

    Libya... Russian.

    Venzuela... Russian.

    Cuba... Russian.

    And on and on.

    The only bad actor in the world right now that doesn't use Russian weaponry almost exclusively is ISIS but that is mostly because their weapons were taken of the bodies of the dead Iraqis defending their country who were the people the US armed.

    You can't sweep this simple truth aside just because the US sells fighter jets to Canada.
    And I'm making the point that US hardware is killing MORE civilians then Russian. And that you don't care about civilian life.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yet your reaction to muslims (as an example barring all muslims from being able to immigrate to Canada) suggests perhaps you do not know this.
    Again, not all Muslims are terrorists. Can we agree on that?

    Can you tell the difference between a neighbor who is an Islamic terrorist and a 'moderate' Muslim before the bomb explodes? Of course not.

    As a Canadian my interest is in protecting my fellow Canadians and not following any politically correct immigration policies. We already have Muslims rioting with shouts of 'Kill The Jews', planned on planting bombs on a passenger train, decapitating our PM, and so on. Why would we want more Muslims when there are plenty of people from other countries throughout the world who would love to live in Canada in peace with no serious chance at all that they'll become Islamist terrorists?

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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    And I'm making the point that US hardware is killing MORE civilians then Russian. And that you don't care about civilian life.
    And that is false. You may argue that the most lopsided body counts of the last 40 years favor US hardware, but the AK-47 has killed more people than pretty much any other weapon in the last 50 years. It is the staple for rebel uprisings and tyrannical crushing of rebel uprisings alike.
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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Sorry dude. The United States is the biggest weapons dealer, and both directly and indirectly we are responsible for more then most in terms of human suffering. Afghanistan is Russia's neighbour, and we shouldn't have been there, not in 1980 nor in 2001. And a majority of Americans now view A-Stan as such.
    Well you've almost convinced me that the American people are evil. Just a few more posts oughta go it.

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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Again, not all Muslims are terrorists. Can we agree on that?
    yep.

    Can you tell the difference between a neighbor who is an Islamic terrorist and a 'moderate' Muslim before the bomb explodes? Of course not.
    can you tell the difference between your neighbor who is white/black/asian and a child molestor before your daughter is raped?

    Can you tell the difference between a your neighbor who's quiet and a nutcase before he shoots up the shopping centre?

    I could go on...

    As a Canadian my interest is in protecting my fellow Canadians and not following any politically correct immigration policies.
    you know nothing about Canadas immigration policies, they are strict and they are unforgiving, I'm married to a Japanese women with a child and we are struggling to get her permanent residency.

    We already have Muslims rioting with shouts of 'Kill The Jews', planned on planting bombs on a passenger train, decapitating our PM, and so on.
    How many people was this?

    How many muslims compared to extremists in the general population would kill the prime minister if it was possible?

    Why would we want more Muslims when there are plenty of people from other countries throughout the world who would love to live in Canada in peace with no serious chance at all that they'll become Islamist terrorists?
    There's a chance anyone can become violent and hurt people, it really has nothing to do with Islam.

    at the end of the day islam is merely the tool, the old fellas who recruit these youngsters have a political agenda, not a religious one and I'll tell yah, when it comes to security in my immediate vicinity, the greatest threat is a white male between the ages of 18 and 35 that is intoxicated (considering it was the only violent encounter with a guest i've ever had).

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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Well tell me, what could have been worse then what we have with the US having been the dominant influence in the ME for twenty years?
    Twice the amount of carnage and the sectarian divide would have exploded already and Israel, just might have been taken out of the picture. As none would have been able to intervene. Which would have gave the Russians the favors with the Suez, Bahrain, the Persian Gulf and the Arabian Sea. Now you think how that works out with our best interests at hand or in mind.

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    Re: ISIS Demands $6.6M Ransom for 26-Year-Old American Woman.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    And that is false. You may argue that the most lopsided body counts of the last 40 years favor US hardware, but the AK-47 has killed more people than pretty much any other weapon in the last 50 years. It is the staple for rebel uprisings and tyrannical crushing of rebel uprisings alike.
    Well, that's all I was arguing. Are we going to now blame fighters for considering the AK47 to be superior to the M16?
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