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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Why would I be happy over wasted money? Oh wait, you see "left" in my lean and automatically assume I support Obama and the Dems right? You might want to check my posts before you make such an assumption.
    I don't see your posts unless I decide to look at them individually. You're on my ignore list because I have seen your posts.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    What constitutional power does congress have to force the Executive branch to enforce a law thats already law?
    They didn't have to fund the Obamacare law, but they did. They have "the power of the purse strings", and chose to fund it anyway, even though they have vote 50 time to repeal it.
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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    And therein lies the problem. Besides being a waste, they are not using the powers given to them by the Constitution. They are dumping their responsibilities on the Judicial branch. I expect they will just say that they are not going to touch it, there's no basis for the suite, or something along those lines. They have the power of the purse strings, and have refused to use it. They can't just ask another branch to do their dirty work.
    Not to mention the fact that the lawsuit will not even make it on the docket. Why? Because the House of Representatives doesn't have standing to file the suit. This stunt is nothing more than riling up the base for the November elections. And why not? I kinda like it. LOL.
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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So that excuses wasting more money? Look if this was trying to impeach the president, I wouldn't agree with it but I would have more respect for it. This lawsuit accomplishes nothing and is just a waste of money. It's all a game of political theater and is a waste of money. Your excuse for this is basically "Well he did it, so we can to".
    This isn't tax payer money, and even if it was what is everyone supposed to do, sit around and do nothing because it costs? This is the result of Obama's administration. Expect much more to come.

    I suspect a post-january Congress is going to be distressing for you.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Not to mention the fact that the lawsuit will not even make it on the docket. Why? Because the House of Representatives doesn't have standing to file the suit. This stunt is nothing more than riling up the base for the November elections. And why not? I kinda like it. LOL.
    It has yet to be determined if the House has standing or not. We won't know that until a Court makes such a determination.

    If the House chooses to file a lawsuit against President Obama, it will face what may prove to be an insurmountable hurdle in establishing standing. To be sure, President Obama has expanded executive power at the expense of the separation of powers that the Founders so carefully devised in the Constitution, but while the merits of any lawsuit against President Obama for abusive unilateral actions may seem clear, the issue of congressional standing is anything but that.

    The House will have to demonstrate to a court’s satisfaction that as an institution, it has been personally harmed by President Obama’s actions, which have effectively nullified the votes of its members, leaving it little recourse to rectify this injustice without court intervention. Such a lawsuit would require the courts to police the limits of the political branches’ powers, and overcoming the natural reluctance of courts to get involved in disputes that have political overtones involving the other branches of government will not be easy.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    I don't see your posts unless I decide to look at them individually. You're on my ignore list because I have seen your posts.
    Ah so you just make assumptions on the fly without checking beforehand to see if your comments are full of ****. I'll remember that next time that you don't do any fact checking before accusing someone.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    This isn't tax payer money, and even if it was what is everyone supposed to do, sit around and do nothing because it costs? This is the result of Obama's administration. Expect much more to come.

    I suspect a post-january Congress is going to be distressing for you.
    Again, I didn't say ANYTHING about public money, I said it was a waste of money period. Just another example of why the duopoly system of the Dems AND GOP is corrupt and not interested in solving real problems.

    The rest of your post is just more rhetoric because whether the Dems or GOP is running things is irrelevent as BOTH are for BIG government for their pet projects and BOTH are corrupt as hell. But then we know you love corruption as long as it is YOUR guys that are in charge and corrupt.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    They didn't have to fund the Obamacare law, but they did. They have "the power of the purse strings", and chose to fund it anyway, even though they have vote 50 time to repeal it.
    How would that force him to enforce the laws? That would PREVENT him.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    How would that force him to enforce the laws? That would PREVENT him.
    Isn't that the idea, to stop Obamacare?
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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Isn't that the idea, to stop Obamacare?
    No, the lawsuit is to stop Obama from changing Obamacare without congressional approval. Some republicans believe in defunding it, but thats not the mainstream opinion. They believe in repealing or replacing it, but if they cant, they beleive in funding the laws as passed. I dont want to refight Obamacare though. Its two separate issues, stupid laws, and executive overreach. The subject doesnt matter. If the President is illegally acting, he has to be challenged. He think its legal, therefore congress can either pass a law saying it isnt, or ask the court to decide the issue. Hopefully Obama would obey a court order. The same thing happend with the gulf drilling moritorum. The exec did not have the power to do it, and someone challenged it, and the court agreed. Then the exec ignored the court and so they were held in contempt.

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