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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    How else is the legislative branch supposed to stop the executive branch from violating the law?
    Or start enforcing the law? One could argue that even if they win they have no physical power to force the Exec to actually obey the decision, but maybe it would then be grounds for impeachment. Though how could they enforce that?

    By following the process set down in the constitution and impeaching the president if they have a case.

    Pretty frickin'simple.

    I don't expect to see that happen anytime soon.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So that excuses wasting more money? Look if this was trying to impeach the president, I wouldn't agree with it but I would have more respect for it. This lawsuit accomplishes nothing and is just a waste of money. It's all a game of political theater and is a waste of money. Your excuse for this is basically "Well he did it, so we can to".
    The Republicans are doing it out of their own pockets, not public funds. I support your decision to waste your own money on whatever you want to. Impeachment would never clear the Senate, and if it did we would end up with President Biden.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    By following the process set down in the constitution and impeaching the president if they have a case.

    Pretty frickin'simple.

    I don't expect to see that happen anytime soon.
    Neither do I, because it is impractical. But the President has encouraged it anyway so that he could use it to ridicule the Republican party.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The Republicans are doing it out of their own pockets, not public funds. I support your decision to waste your own money on whatever you want to. Impeachment would never clear the Senate, and if it did we would end up with President Biden.
    I didn't say they didn't have a right to, I said it was a waste of money regardless of whether it is public funds or not. It still will accomplish ZERO. Those are facts and will hurt the GOP more than help them. People are tired of political games and the GOP is playing a big one right now. Instead of focusing on jobs and the economy, the GOP is focusing on suing Obama. Well, the GOP has snatched defeat from victory before, they are quite good at it.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    That should be amended. He is not supposed to be able to spend without Congress, but he does.
    I have to disagree with that. A president can not spend any money without Congress giving them the money.
    I confess, I did it, I let the dogs out.

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon Feltser View Post
    House Republicans will pay up to $350,000 to sue President Obama, according to a contract Chair of the House Administration Committee Candice Miller (R-Mich.) signed Monday with Washington legal firm BakerHostetler.
    The GOP leadership intends to sue the president over the alleged abuse of his executive authority, particularly over the changes in the employer mandate under the Affordable Care Act.
    House to spend $350K on Barack Obama lawsuit - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com

    And this is nothing compared to what Obama has spent on these goodies: Benghazi, Fast and Furious, the IRS targeting scandal, the NSA scandal, the AP phone records scandal, the VA hospitals scandal, the Stimulus Package, Solyndra, illegal immigration, ObamaCare, unimaginable National Debt, and, well, you get the idea...but will these money spending and effort be successful?
    Nope, this is just political theater.
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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    I have to disagree with that. A president can not spend any money without Congress giving them the money.
    And therein lies the problem. Besides being a waste, they are not using the powers given to them by the Constitution. They are dumping their responsibilities on the Judicial branch. I expect they will just say that they are not going to touch it, there's no basis for the suite, or something along those lines. They have the power of the purse strings, and have refused to use it. They can't just ask another branch to do their dirty work.
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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    All of that is a waste of money, however Obama can not spend money that Congress does not give him to spend. Both parties throw away enormous amounts of tax dollars.
    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    I have to disagree with that. A president can not spend any money without Congress giving them the money.
    ummm...

    You obviously haven't been keeping up with the things that Obama has done...the things that have prompted this very lawsuit by the Republicans. For example, Obama HAS, in fact, spent money that was not given to him by Congress.

    U.S. GAO - Department of Defense--Compliance with Statutory Notification Requirement

    These violations outlined in this GAO report are not part of the Republican lawsuit, but they certainly should be.


    In regard to the topic of this thread, I think the money is well spent...even if it takes till after Obama is out of Office to determine that he has disregarded our laws and our Constitution during the course of his Presidency...because it will deter Presidents who come after him from following his example.
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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    The Republicans are doing it out of their own pockets, not public funds.
    Where do you get that? This recent article says it is taxpayer funded.
    Taxpayers Will Dish Out $350,000 for the House to Sue Obama - The Wire

    The American tax-payers will foot the bill for filing and prosecuting this lawsuit. Whether or not you agree with suing the president, you are paying for this legal action. Interestingly, the American tax-payers will also foot the bill for defending themselves against the lawsuit. Regardless of your like or dislike of the president, you will be paying the costs of defending the president from the lawsuit.
    How Are We Paying For This Lawsuit, Mr. Speaker?

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    Re: $350,000 to sue President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Ridiculous waste of money. Political theater.
    I agree. The suit is too much too early. They should have waited till after the first of the year.
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