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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It appears we will be going into Syria to take action on ISIS. This could be a problem. What do you think of this considering BO and his Team have not talked with Assad and or the Russians about this? Oh, and after Assad released a statement yesterday? What say ye?


    President Obama has authorized surveillance flights over Syria, a precursor to potential airstrikes there, but a mounting concern for the White House is how to target the Sunni extremists without helping President Bashar al-Assad.

    Defense officials said Monday evening that the Pentagon was sending in manned and unmanned reconnaissance flights over Syria, using a combination of aircraft, including drones and possibly U2 spy planes. Mr. Obama approved the flights over the weekend, a senior administration official said.....snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/wo...yria-ISIS.html
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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Monte. Well there is the concern that we would help out the MB backed Rebels. Yet their Leadership has control of nothing. Also as I have stated.....no more Army. Most of their ranks have joined ISIS.

    Again Russia and Putin will speak up if they try to hit Assad. As the OP mentioned. Assad warned yesterday about any flights into Syria. Seems we have no time to listen. They have Scuds.
    None of our allies that I know of have backed us on this. There's a reason we don't have their support! Even the UN recognizes Assad as the rightful leader in Syria. Obama seems to be stubbornly set on doing this his way, unilaterally, which is bad news, IMO. Why is he backing the MB again- he tried it in Egypt, and the people there booted them out of power almost immediately. Very bad ju ju being brought into the picture here - do we really want to have the same things we're doing to other countries done to us? I don't think so!

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It appears we will be going into Syria to take action on ISIS. This could be a problem. What do you think of this considering BO and his Team have not talked with Assad and or the Russians about this? Oh, and after Assad released a statement yesterday? What say ye?


    President Obama has authorized surveillance flights over Syria, a precursor to potential airstrikes there, but a mounting concern for the White House is how to target the Sunni extremists without helping President Bashar al-Assad.

    Defense officials said Monday evening that the Pentagon was sending in manned and unmanned reconnaissance flights over Syria, using a combination of aircraft, including drones and possibly U2 spy planes. Mr. Obama approved the flights over the weekend, a senior administration official said.....snip~

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/26/wo...yria-ISIS.html
    I think it's a good call, long term, but you raise a good point in that he has done this unilaterally. Though I doubt dialogues between Assad, Obama, and Putin would have ultimately changed the decision to gather intel this way, sometimes just saying, "Yo, we about to do dis" is a gesture that can alleviate some of the huff in international relations.

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Surprised he didn't authorize drone bombing, he loves drone bombing.
    Mornin Ikari. Yeah but ISIS has Anti air......plus they are saying the Numbers in Syria are 50k. 20k non-Syrian. Way more than they have in Iraq. We better be taking pictures and get some Satellites Hovering over there.

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    None of our allies that I know of have backed us on this. There's a reason we don't have their support! Even the UN recognizes Assad as the rightful leader in Syria. Obama seems to be stubbornly set on doing this his way, unilaterally, which is bad news, IMO. Why is he backing the MB again- he tried it in Egypt, and the people there booted them out of power almost immediately. Very bad ju ju being brought into the picture here - do we really want to have the same things we're doing to other countries done to us? I don't think so!


    Well the UN did go after their funding Lady P. Also, the Brits Cameron is on this with Team BO. Might see some Brits Planes being sent to Cyprus, again. Or put on alert.

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    I think it's a good call, long term, but you raise a good point in that he has done this unilaterally. Though I doubt dialogues between Assad, Obama, and Putin would have ultimately changed the decision to gather intel this way, sometimes just saying, "Yo, we about to do dis" is a gesture that can alleviate some of the huff in international relations.

    Mornin' PG. It has to be done with the Recon. First the eyes before sending anything else in.....they have access to an Airport. They now have a means to get something up in the Air.

    I haven't heard Russia sound off on this.....but they may be busy with Putin and the Ukrainian President meeting.

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Also without international support in money and troops I would not want us to go in there alone either. IMO, and I know it sounds harsh, but if we cannot get international support I am all for letting it get bad enough there to jusitfy nukes.
    LOL There will be no nukes no matter what happens. The U.S. will never be the first to launch a nuclear attack and with good reason. Nukes are for MAD not for tactical use.

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Lady P. Seems Team BO didn't listen.....and according to the one WH Official who isn't named. They wont be asking Assad for any permission or talking to him.

    Yeah only 17 countries acknowledged the MB backed Rebels. Which only 7 acknowledged them as Ruling Syria. Of course that was with Assad saying otherwise. So there about a good 100 countries that have not weighed in.

    Still Ban Ki Moon and the UN dealt with Assad over the Chems and are in talks with him.
    MMC, I don't think this latest move by Obama is a wise one, and could bring retribution upon the people of this country who have had no say in what's being done by DC. Treating Assad, who is the leader of 22 million people in Syria, as a inconsequential nobody who can be ignored, is mind-boggling! How dare we do this insulting thing in the first place, all because of some troublemaking rebels who aren't liked by the majority of people being affected! Even the UN disagrees with Obama, and acknowledges Assad as the ruler of Syria. I usually don't agree with the UN on most things, but this time I do. Obama is telling a sovereign country that he will do what he wants in that country, with or without permission? Words fail me....

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well the UN did go after their funding Lady P. Also, the Brits Cameron is on this with Team BO. Might see some Brits Planes being sent to Cyprus, again. Or put on alert.
    Judging from what I am hearing, Cameron is well on his way to losing his job. Is he counting on Obama to help him by doing this? The Brits don't agree with Cameron's decision. A lot of that may be because Russia is an ally of Syria, and the Brits don't want a problem with Russia, and Russia will weigh in at some point - you can count on that! Never good to be on the wrong side of someone who has a monopoly on supplying you with oil and heating products - especially since Winter is coming!

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    Re: Obama Approves Air Surveillance of ISIS in Syria.....

    And then US officials complain why Egypt and UAE was not consulted with Washington about airstrikes.
    There's also Israel who doesn't care at all striking UN schools and doesn't care even more when US criticize them.

    Rebels are everywhere there, in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Yemen. ISIS still forwarding.
    Well, I guess that region ain't anymore an unstable region, it's de juro a region in war.
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