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Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

another possible motive for his actions was the failure of the pedestrians to leave the road way and get on the road side, thereby disrespecting the police officer and his instructions
don't recall reading that he activated his lights/siren, as might be expected in a pursuit
that failure may be indicative that he was personally piqued rather than professionally responsive

I believe they did get out of the road and he drove on a little bit before stopping again.
 
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I believe they did get out of the road and he drove on a little bit before stopping again.

they told him they were close to their destination during the first stop
was there ever an indication that they actually got out of the road?
i ask because the unfolding scenario indicates otherwise
the patrolman reversed his vehicle such that his driver-side door was against the body of the pedestrian ... which to me, indictates the pedestrian was still within the roadway
 
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If the police are targeting Americans of a certain skin color, then it's racial... thus the incident typifies this behavior of unfair treatment.

and that is a concern
given your presentation, could not any person of color allege their being approached by the police to be a racially charged incident?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

All credit goes to the Conservative Treehouse for this.

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Dorian Johnson
Was he involved in the assault upon the Officer?
Or was it just Brown?


In the store video Dorian can be seen wearing some type of bracelet on both his wrists.



Please note the bracelet on Dorian's right wrist that day.
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And also note the hands up lie being told, which he later changed.

Please note the rubber band/bracelet on his left arm that day and the complete absence of the one that was on his right wrist.
dorian-johnson-hands-up.jpg



Now please note what was seen laying just outside the vehicle's window.
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Open the image up in it's own page and enlarged it.
It should look like this. And that doesn't look like a casing.
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Continued below.
 
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

Does the above look like the following bracelet on his wrist?
dorian-johnson-bracelet.jpg

Found on his old twitter account.


I don't know, but they do look similar.
A coincidence? With what was on his right wrist no longer being there? Unlikely, but you never know.
 
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the patrolman reversed his vehicle such that his driver-side door was against the body of the pedestrian
That is what the liar said and isn't credible.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

let me make sure i understand what you are telling us
that the cop, at the moment he told the pedestrians to get out of the street, was unaware that these were the perps
but that mere seconds later it dawned on him that the pedestrians were the strong-arm robbery suspects
and he then backed up, without operating the sirens and lights in that pursuit, to confront them

Why is that hard to imagine? You understand how police radios, dispatchers, and cell phones work, right?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

Why is that hard to imagine? You understand how police radios, dispatchers, and cell phones work, right?

actually, from this incident, i see that they did not operate

my belief is that the blue light and siren are to notify of an intent to pursue and stop a suspect. at least that is how it has worked when i have been driving
what about you?
 
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That is what the liar said and isn't credible.

so, your presentation is that the officer did not reach thru his patrol car window to grasp the pedestrian
look forward to seeing which one of us is correct during the trial testimony
 
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so, your presentation is that the officer did not reach thru his patrol car window to grasp the pedestrian
look forward to seeing which one of us is correct during the trial testimony
:doh
My presentation was exactly what I quoted and said wasn't credible.
"the patrolman reversed his vehicle such that his driver-side door was against the body of the pedestrian"

It is like you think that liars do not mix up truth with their false statements. :doh

So why do you think he is in Federal Protective custody?
 
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:doh
My presentation was exactly what I quoted and said wasn't credible.
"the patrolman reversed his vehicle such that his driver-side door was against the body of the pedestrian"

It is like you think that liars do not mix up truth with their false statements. :doh

So why do you think he is in Federal Protective custody?

because he is a key witness who fears for his person
would there be any other reason?
 
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actually, from this incident, i see that they did not operate

my belief is that the blue light and sire are to notify of an intent to pursue and stop a suspect. at least that is how it has worked when i have been driving
what about you?

Sometimes. It depends on the circumstances as to whether an officer would use their lights and/or sirens for a given situation. It wouldn't make much sense to use it in this case, whether he was going back because he thought they were suspects in a robbery or he was just going to give them **** because they weren't "respectin' his authoritay".
 
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because he is a key witness who fears for his person
Stop deflecting. Why is he in fear?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

He originally opened his door. The door was then shut on him (whether purposely or by accident, isn't yet determined). So likely he just grabbed hold and was trying to get Brown to surrender to be put under arrest. Big or not, the heat of the moment doesn't really allow much time for things like that to make a determination as to whether he should or shouldn't grab Brown to stop him from leaving when he was most likely planning on arresting him. I did not mean that he was trying to pull Brown through the vehicle window (as apparently some earlier assumed). But by trying to keep him there, he might have been able to hold onto Brown long enough for backup to arrive. It is also possible, that had Brown been more cooperative, he could have gotten him into the vehicle after the initial attempt to flee.

Maybe Brown just 'dismissed' Wilson and started to walk away and Wilson grabbed him to get him to turn and continue to respond to his questions. Not smart on cop's part, but it's reasonable speculation.
 
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Stop deflecting. Why is he in fear?

let's see
black kid on the street, whose testimony has already caused the US DOJ to come to town to investigate the racial climate of the police force
and whose testimony could put away a white cop

yea, he's afraid of the black folks on the street ... lol, wasn't that your prior conjecture?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

let's see
black kid on the street, whose testimony has already caused the US DOJ to come to town to investigate the racial climate of the police force
and whose testimony could put away a white cop

yea, he's afraid of the black folks on the street ... lol, wasn't that your prior conjecture?
Still deflecting I see.
Protective custody requires a credible threat.
The Police and/or Officer Wilson is not a credible threat.
The community is.
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As for the DOJ involvement?
iLOL
The communities outcry based on his false claims is why they were there.
He was shot in the back - lie.
His hands were up - lie.
 
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Maybe Brown just 'dismissed' Wilson and started to walk away and Wilson grabbed him to get him to turn and continue to respond to his questions. Not smart on cop's part, but it's reasonable speculation.

Certainly a possibility. It comes down to it is hard to mesh all the information we have together to make a reasonable picture. It is kind of like having a box of puzzle pieces for similar yet different puzzles and trying to put only one of the puzzles together. You have some pieces that fit, some that might fit but you can't quite tell, and others pieces that are still missing.
 
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Still deflecting I see.
Protective custody requires a credible threat.
The Police and/or Officer Wilson is not a credible threat.
The community is.
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As for the DOJ involvement?
iLOL
The communities outcry based on his false claims is why they were there.
He was shot in the back - lie.
His hands were up - lie.
the racial composition of the local police force matches that of the community it serves - lie
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

the racial composition of the local police force matches that of the community it serves - lie

Has anyone actually made that assertion for this case?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

they told him they were close to their destination during the first stop
was there ever an indication that they actually got out of the road?
i ask because the unfolding scenario indicates otherwise
the patrolman reversed his vehicle such that his driver-side door was against the body of the pedestrian ... which to me, indictates the pedestrian was still within the roadway

Do we know that he didnt call them over again? Or if he backed up while they were still getting over to the side?
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

the racial composition of the local police force matches that of the community it serves - lie
Just more deflection from you. Figures.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

actually, from this incident, i see that they did not operate

my belief is that the blue light and siren are to notify of an intent to pursue and stop a suspect. at least that is how it has worked when i have been driving
what about you?

There are times when cops do not use those. Like when the dont want to alert suspects. And if he was just a few yards away and was just going back for more questioning....why? Would you be more or less alarmed and run off if a cop reversed toward you with full lights and siren?

Regarding what didnt operate, are you saying his radio or cell phone didnt? There will be hard evidence if there was a radio call or phone call, even if it has not been released yet.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

Has anyone actually made that assertion for this case?

the assertion made is that the black witness sought protection from the blacks of his community rather than the local police force
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

Do we know that he didnt call them over again? Or if he backed up while they were still getting over to the side?

A better question to ask is why back up in that manner at all? Would it not be easier to just get out of the vehicle and order the young men to put their hands up if he was trying to apprehend them?
 
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the assertion made is that the black witness sought protection from the blacks of his community rather than the local police force
:naughty
That was not asserted. :doh
While you have the racial make-up correct, it also was not asserted. That is all your doing.


And as pointed out, in that community snitches get stitches.
He has more cause to fear his own community than the police or Wilson.
 
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