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Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

In the back? ...No
Forearm from behind? ... Absolutely possible.


You take the news headline as the whole and the end of the story.
Learning the facts takes a little more effort.
You should follow your own advise, as the above was in relation to his facing the Officer.

And the truth is only one way was possible, and that is likely why the scheme team are not revealing any trajectory analysis in regards to that shot.
 
They could. Many semi-automatics, including service weapons, hold 10 in the magazine and 1 in the chamber.
The Glock 22, 15 + 1.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

your agreement with my speculation indicates that the fabric we wear is of the same fiber
and no, yours isn't teflon

I agreed that the Mob must have its circus, I didn't agree that it was just.

mine would be Kevlar btw...and one of a kind.

teflon isn't a fiber, silly...it's a synthetic fluoropolymer of tetrafluoroethylen...
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

take your own advice.

One eye witness (also involved in the robbery) made the statement that Brown was shot in the back. The medical examination does not support that statement.

The investigation is not done. People are jumping to conclusions without knowing all the facts. Any eye witness statement needs to be collaborated by other evidence.

I will wait till the investigation is done before having an opinion on if the shooting was justified or not.

Being "shot from behind" is not inconsistent with being "shot in the back".
If you saw someone walking away from another who was shooting a pistol at them and you saw that someone jerk their body with one of the gunshots.You would describe what you saw as someone shot in the back.
It's not pointing to an anatomical location so much it is a description of the way a coward would try to kill.
 
No Moot.

He stated that Brown was approaching the Officer as the Officer was firing and thought the Officer was missing. Those shots were so tightly grouped together in sequence that it is exactly what that witness describes. Brown had doubled back and was now approaching as the Officer fired multiple times missing.

Start @ 06:28

NO. Start at 0:00 That tells us what this man saw.

The first thing he stated in this recording was "killed for no reason"
He did't say they killed him because he was charging ...He said they killed him for no reason.
That was plain as day.
 
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NO. Start at 0:00 That tells us what this man saw.
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No it doesn't.
That man didn't see it.
He is repeating what he heard, he made that clear in what he said, and what he heard is false.

He heard the shots, came outside and Brown was laying in the street dead.

He didn't see ****.
 
And just in case anybody is thinking that the pause possibly indicates the point where brown turned to confront the Officer ...
There were four shots after the pause. According to a un-official autopsy, Brown was hit six times, with all shots coming from the front.

So if this recording is of the shots, the pause being where Brown turned is not a possible scenario.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

You should follow your own advise, as the above was in relation to his facing the Officer.

And the truth is only one way was possible, and that is likely why the scheme team are not revealing any trajectory analysis in regards to that shot.

Here is what Parcells said about the graze wound on Browns right fore arm, that he and Dr Baden agreed on;
"..so the question asked of us was, could that wound occur from him walking away and then he turns around?
It’s consistent with that.
-Dr Parcells
 
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No it doesn't.
That man didn't see it.
He is repeating what he heard, he made that clear in what he said, and what he heard is false.

He heard the shots, came outside and Brown was laying in the street dead.

He didn't see ****.

Who was the witness heard talking at 6:28 in the video?





"...Still in his car, the officer grabs Brown by his neck, Johnson said. Brown tries to pull away, but the officer keeps pulling Brown toward him, he said.

Johnson: "My friend, Big Mike, very angrily is trying to pull away from the officer."

The officer draws his weapon. He says "'I'll shoot" or "I'm about to shoot." "I'm standing so close to Big Mike and the officer, I look in his window and I see that he has his gun pointed at both of us. And when he fired his weapon, I moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. I saw the fire come out the barrel and I instinctually knew it was a gun. I looked at my friend Big Mike and saw he was struck in the chest or upper region because I saw blood spatter down his side."

Johnson: "At no point in time did they struggle over the weapon because the weapon was already drawn on us.".....read..."


What happened when Michael Brown met Officer Darren Wilson - CNN.com



That long pause in the audio is key.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

Here is what Parcells said about the graze wound on Browns right fore arm, that he and Dr Baden agreed on;
And that is what you do not understand.
And we have already been over this.
Wrong. He was speaking to all the wounds as that is what was asked. "Dr. Baden, are any of these wounds ..."
He clearly stated in his reply "... but, they all came from the front".


If you continue on past that point folks, you hear exactly what Buck Ewer seems to be trying to hide.

Dr. Baden was asked a question about a the wounds being inconsistent with running from the Officer, Baden clearly stated that they were from the front and that they are consistent with moving forwards or backwards, not running away from.

"... but, they all came from the front"
 
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Who was the witness heard talking at 6:28 in the video?
Why? Do you want to go silence him?
Doesn't matter to us whom he is.






"...Still in his car, the officer grabs Brown by his neck, Johnson said. Brown tries to pull away, but the officer keeps pulling Brown toward him, he said.

Johnson: "My friend, Big Mike, very angrily is trying to pull away from the officer."

The officer draws his weapon. He says "'I'll shoot" or "I'm about to shoot." "I'm standing so close to Big Mike and the officer, I look in his window and I see that he has his gun pointed at both of us. And when he fired his weapon, I moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. I saw the fire come out the barrel and I instinctually knew it was a gun. I looked at my friend Big Mike and saw he was struck in the chest or upper region because I saw blood spatter down his side."

Johnson: "At no point in time did they struggle over the weapon because the weapon was already drawn on us.".....read..."


What happened when Michael Brown met Officer Darren Wilson - CNN.com
We already know this person is a liar and has lied about what happened.




That long pause in the audio is key.
1.) Three seconds is not long.
2.) If the recording is of this incident, it may be key for the Officers version, but is shows that Brown definitely did not turn around at the pause.
 
Why? Do you want to go silence him?
Doesn't matter to us whom he is.
Then why did you post the video?


We already know this person is a liar and has lied about what happened.
Yeah, He lied about his age....whoop de doo.

At this point he's more credible than the entire Ferguson police department and St. Louis county sheriff department combined.


1.) Three seconds is not long.
Long enough to see that the victim was already wounded and unarmed with his hands up.


2.) If the recording is of this incident, it may be key for the Officers version, but is shows that Brown definitely did not turn around at the pause.
No, it didn't show anything of the kind. The audio could work against the officer as well.
 
And just in case anybody is thinking that the pause possibly indicates the point where brown turned to confront the Officer ...
There were four shots after the pause. According to a un-official autopsy, Brown was hit six times, with all shots coming from the front.

So if this recording is of the shots, the pause being where Brown turned is not a possible scenario.
Wrong.
They never said that he was shot six times. They said that there were six gunshot wounds.
At least two of those wounds were re-entry wounds, three were graze wounds and at least one wound could well have been received while walking away, from the first group of shots.
One of those wounds, according to Johnson, were received at the window when the gun discharged inside the car.
Nothing is inconsistent with four shots fired from the front .

Only three bullets were recovered from Browns body.
 
Then why did you post the video?
This time around? For you to hear what the witness said.


Yeah, He lied about his age....whoop de doo.
1.) Hew cute. You thought I was speaking to that previous incident.
2.) He lied in this case. Brown was not shot in the back.


At this point he's more credible than the entire Ferguson police department and St. Louis county sheriff department combined.
What a ridiculous assertion. Darian has no credibility.



Long enough to see that the victim was already wounded and unarmed with his hands up.
Still not a long time.

No, it didn't show anything of the kind.
Wrong.
What is being alleged is that Brown turned to face the Officer at that point.
That is impossible given the number of shots after the pause, 4, and the unofficial autopsy reporting that all shots came from the front, at least 6.
So Brown would have had to turn before the last 4 shots to get 6. Duh!

What has become apparent. is that you chose a side without knowing the evidence and are now attempting to justify the side you took.
What a shame.
 
Wrong.
They never said that he was shot six times. They said that there were six gunshot wounds.
At least two of those wounds were re-entry wounds, three were graze wounds and at least one wound could well have been received while walking away, from the first group of shots.
One of those wounds, according to Johnson, were received at the window when the gun discharged inside the car.
Nothing is inconsistent with four shots fired from the front .

Only three bullets were recovered from Browns body.
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Wrong!
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

And that is what you do not understand.
And we have already been over this.




"... but, they all came from the front"
Are you saying then that Professor Parcells is a liar too?
You would have to be, because Parcells clearly stated that he and Dr Baden AGREED that the forearm graze wound was consistent with being shot from behind, and then turning around.

..so the question asked of us was, could that wound occur from him walking away and then he turns around?
It’s consistent with that.
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Are you saying then that Professor Parcells is a liar too?
You would have to be, because Parcells clearly stated that he and Dr Baden AGREED that the forearm graze wound was consistent with being shot from behind, and then turning around.
How many times do you have to be told that you do not understand what has been said for it to sink in?
It's the same **** that you didn't understand about a bullet traveling from the rear to the front while the shot came from the front.


And in this case, they all came from the front.


And as for Parcells?
Shawn Parcells’ credentials, role in Michael Brown autopsy questioned by doctors | fox4kc.com
 
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How many times do you have to be told that you do not understand what has been said for it to sink in?
It's the same **** that you didn't understand about a bullet traveling from the rear to the front while the shot came from the front.


And in this case, they all came from the front.


And as for Parcells?
Shawn Parcells’ credentials, role in Michael Brown autopsy questioned by doctors | fox4kc.com

..so the question asked of us was, could that wound occur from him walking away and then he turns around?
It’s consistent with that.
Baden was standing right there and he never said ,I never agreed to that. He stood and listened intently as Parcells made that part of the presentation.
When Baden was asked if the shots came from the front ... he responded "it's possible". He didn't say it was a sure thing.
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Baden was standing right there and he never said ,I never agreed to that. He stood and listened intently as Parcells made that part of the presentation.
When Baden was asked if the shots came from the front ... he responded "it's possible". He didn't say it was a sure thing.
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And again.

"... but, they all came from the front"
 
Wrong.
They never said that he was shot six times. They said that there were six gunshot wounds.
As I said, you are wrong.
Parcells clearly stated they concluded he was shot at least 6 times.
 
This time around? For you to hear what the witness said.
Who was the witness?


1.) Hew cute. You thought I was speaking to that previous incident.
2.) He lied in this case. Brown was not shot in the back.
It probably looked like he was since the officer was shooting at him while his back was turned.

What a ridiculous assertion. Darian has no credibility.
Neither does the Ferguson police chief. He said there was a struggle in patrol car for the gun before it went off. The coroner didn't find any gun powder residue on Brown's hands or any sign of a struggle on his body.



Still not a long time.
Long enough to see that the victim was wounded and unarmed with his hands up.

Wrong.
What is being alleged is that Brown turned to face the Officer at that point.
That is impossible given the number of shots after the pause, 4, and the unofficial autopsy reporting that all shots came from the front, at least 6.
So Brown would have had to turn before the last 4 shots to get 6. Duh!

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Alleged by you. Several witnesses saw MB get hit or grazed from behind.

"The cop gets out of his vehicle shooting," Tiffany Mitchell said. "(Brown's) body jerked as if he was hit from behind, and he turned around, and he put his hands up. ... The cop continued to fire until he just dropped down to the ground, and his face just smacks the concrete."

Piaget Crenshaw, Mitchell's co-worker, said she saw what happened from her apartment while waiting for Mitchell....."He started chasing after the boy. I'm hearing shots fired ... one did graze him. ... At the end he just turned around ... and then was shot multiple times."


What has become apparent. is that you chose a side without knowing the evidence and are now attempting to justify the side you took.
What a shame
Whoa, look at the pot calling the kettle black. :roll:
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

How many times do you have to be told that you do not understand what has been said for it to sink in?
It's the same **** that you didn't understand about a bullet traveling from the rear to the front while the shot came from the front.


And in this case, they all came from the front.


And as for Parcells?
Shawn Parcells’ credentials, role in Michael Brown autopsy questioned by doctors | fox4kc.com

From your link:

However, that’s something of a dubious title according to forensic pathologist Dr. Erik Mitchell.

“That is a degree that does not exist in my knowledge, except in the mind of Shawn Parcells,” Dr. Mitchell said.

Dr. Mitchell takes issue with Parcells’ title.

“You cannot claim the title, because it is a formal, licensable position. You can assist somebody; in this way I can say, for instance, I have paid my taxes, so I am an assistant President of the United States,” Dr. Mitchell said.

Parcells admits he has no certification as a pathology assistant, but says his qualification comes from experience.

“I worked there as a forensic assistant for about a year. And if I remember correctly that was 2005 to 2006. That was under Dr. Young,” Parcells said.

That’s Dr. Thomas Young, the former Jackson County Medical Examiner.

“And that’s honestly where I gained a lot of my experience,” Parcells said.

Parcells says his training began in 1997 when he interned with Dr. Young, until he was hired in the mid-2000’s.

Dr. Young responded with this statement:

“Shawn hung out at the Jackson County Medical Examiner’s office but was not trained by me.”…. “He has been representing himself in a way that is not appropriate by giving forensic pathology opinions when he is not qualified to do so.”

“He has none of the qualifications that are required. He has experience as a morgue technician, somebody who would move bodies around, clean up after an autopsy,” Dr. Mitchell said.


Um, woah. That guy will be eaten alive by the Defense Attorneys if he is presented at trial as a witness for the Prosecution.
 
Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

And again.

"... but, they all came from the front"

Baden also said it was a "preliminary autopsy" and he didn't have all the evidence such as the x-rays and MB's clothes. The jury is still out, Excon.
 
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Piaget Crenshaw speaks to CNN.





She thought a bullet had grazed MB's arm from behind, too.
 
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Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

unless the officer was already injured in a scuffle with the guy, because at that point it would be silly to assume he would immediately be trying to surrender after physically assaulting a police officer. right?

Honestly, there is no way to tell. He could have actually been hit by one of those bullets and decided to surrender. I don't know what happened, since I wasn't there. But we need more information and there is absolutely no evidence that he was shot and killed because he was black.
 
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