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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    The location of the wounds should tell folks a lot about the aim.
    An Officer fires at center mass.
    Not counting the wound Brown supposedly received at the vehicle, all the wounds are on the right part of the body except for the last round (in the top of the head) delivered at a closer range.
    That shows the Officer's aim is consistent.
    If he was firing at Brown as he ran away, and struck him, the wound would be consistent with his aim and likely be on Browns back left, not on his right side.


    And as the Washington Post has reported.
    Buried in the 59 paragraph.

    The funeral was held Aug. 25 and televised on CNN. His body had been autopsied three times — once each by St. Louis County police, a pathologist hired by Brown’s family and federal authorities. All found that Brown had been shot at least six times, including twice in the head but not in the back.

    Michael Brown and Dorian Johnson, the friend who witnessed his shooting - The Washington Post


    Same article as above.

    Johnson, who hid behind a nearby car during the Aug. 9 shooting, is in federal protective custody out of fear for his life, his attorneys said.

    Federal Protective Custody?

    The only people he has to be afraid of are those from his community, if, and only if he flipped his script.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
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    the deceased was a large guy
    apprehending him thru the driver-side window of the patrol car makes no rational sense. but from what we have learned, that is what the patrolman appears to have done
    the absence of rational behavior by him is what causes me to now conclude he was acting irrationally; likely agitated by the failure of the pedestrians to follow his command to leave the street
    He originally opened his door. The door was then shut on him (whether purposely or by accident, isn't yet determined). So likely he just grabbed hold and was trying to get Brown to surrender to be put under arrest. Big or not, the heat of the moment doesn't really allow much time for things like that to make a determination as to whether he should or shouldn't grab Brown to stop him from leaving when he was most likely planning on arresting him. I did not mean that he was trying to pull Brown through the vehicle window (as apparently some earlier assumed). But by trying to keep him there, he might have been able to hold onto Brown long enough for backup to arrive. It is also possible, that had Brown been more cooperative, he could have gotten him into the vehicle after the initial attempt to flee.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If the gun actually went off in the car, then yeah... it would make sense that Brown ran.
    yes, if a cop was holding onto me thru the driver side window, taking a shot at point blank, running away is my next move if i had been unable to disarm him

    There's no proof that Wilson was hit. No medical records that I'm aware of to confirm that, unless you have something to verify that claim?
    i cannot imagine that the cop was not hit. it has been presented that the pedestrian was being restrained thru the patrol car window. we know that the pedestrian did not then surrender, which indicates he likely fought the cop to get away from his grasp. the likelihood that the cop was struck seems high

    As for the bystander... he does not say WHO was still coming. He could have been addressing the cop moving forward as he was shooting.
    too little certainty in all of this

    now a question. why is the DOJ investigating this as a racially motivated incident? other than the cop being white and the deceased being black, what racial component has been identified to cause it to be found a racially charged incident?
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    now a question. why is the DOJ investigating this as a racially motivated incident? other than the cop being white and the deceased being black, what racial component has been identified to cause it to be found a racially charged incident?
    If the police are targeting Americans of a certain skin color, then it's racial... thus the incident typifies this behavior of unfair treatment.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Completely agree... But... maybe you shouldn't worry about 4 wittness accounts so far made public disputing the officer and using it as a numbers game against the one that was made public supporting.
    You can't count the numbers of imaginary witnesses. Those 12 are exactly that until they actually make statements. Much like the officers statement that hasn't been made public... why is that btw?
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    another possible motive for his actions was the failure of the pedestrians to leave the road way and get on the road side, thereby disrespecting the police officer and his instructions
    don't recall reading that he activated his lights/siren, as might be expected in a pursuit
    that failure may be indicative that he was personally piqued rather than professionally responsive
    I believe they did get out of the road and he drove on a little bit before stopping again.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I believe they did get out of the road and he drove on a little bit before stopping again.
    they told him they were close to their destination during the first stop
    was there ever an indication that they actually got out of the road?
    i ask because the unfolding scenario indicates otherwise
    the patrolman reversed his vehicle such that his driver-side door was against the body of the pedestrian ... which to me, indictates the pedestrian was still within the roadway
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    If the police are targeting Americans of a certain skin color, then it's racial... thus the incident typifies this behavior of unfair treatment.
    and that is a concern
    given your presentation, could not any person of color allege their being approached by the police to be a racially charged incident?
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    All credit goes to the Conservative Treehouse for this.

    Potentially Explosive – On Scene Evidence Shows Mike Brown Accomplice Dorian Johnson Was Part of Physical Assault Against Darren Wilson… | The Last Refuge

    Well, Well, Well – The Saint Louis Swisher Of Sweets Cohort Dorian Johnson | The Last Refuge


    Dorian Johnson
    Was he involved in the assault upon the Officer?
    Or was it just Brown?


    In the store video Dorian can be seen wearing some type of bracelet on both his wrists.



    Please note the bracelet on Dorian's right wrist that day.

    And also note the hands up lie being told, which he later changed.

    Please note the rubber band/bracelet on his left arm that day and the complete absence of the one that was on his right wrist.



    Now please note what was seen laying just outside the vehicle's window.



    Open the image up in it's own page and enlarged it.
    It should look like this. And that doesn't look like a casing.



    Continued below.
    Last edited by Excon; 09-05-14 at 01:03 PM.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732

    Does the above look like the following bracelet on his wrist?

    Found on his old twitter account.


    I don't know, but they do look similar.
    A coincidence? With what was on his right wrist no longer being there? Unlikely, but you never know.
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