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    re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Wrong.

    Wrong.
    It is also meaningless.
    It is not the Official autopsy.
    If it is so "meaningless" ...
    Why do you keep quoting it like it was the Gospel according to St Baden?

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    re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72]

    Well, then Michael takes off with his friend and gets to be about 35 feet away. And Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So he stands up and yells, “Freeze!” Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael was taunting him, ‘Oh what you’re gonna do about it. You’re not going to shoot me.’

    And then all of a sudden he [Michael] just started to bumrush him [Darren]. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he [Darren] just started shooting. And he [Michael] just kept coming. So he [Darren] really thinks he [Michael] was on something because he just kept coming. It was unbelievable. So he finally ended up, the final shot was to the forehead. And then he [Michael] fell about two, three feet in front of the officer. So that’s why the story’s going around that [Michael was shot in the back]. Of course, ballistics will prove he wasn’t shot in the back.
    So let's discuss the newly authenticated audio. From the start of first group of shots to start of second group of shots is approximately 5 seconds.

    Assuming the most extreme scenario that Brown made it all the way to where he fell two or three feet in front of the officer before the second group of shots, this would have him traveling around 30 feet in 5 seconds, at a speed of 6 ft/s...approximately 4 mph. If Brown didn't make the full 30 feet before the second round of shots, then his speed would have been even slower.

    So mathematically, if all the shots in the audio were fired after Brown started charging towards Wilson, then Michael Brown's "full speed" was a maximum possible speed of 4 mph, which is the equivalent of a brisk walk.

    To address the situation of the man coming at him at a maximum possible full-speed rate of 4 mph, Wilson stopped shooting, stood there in place for a couple of seconds as Brown was coming at him, and then at that point decided that his only option was to recontinue his use of deadly force.

    OR...the above story is crap, and the first shots were fired at his back, and the second shots were fired after he turned around.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The police have confirmed that her story tracks with the officer's story... So.. seems we can put some belief in her being "real" at least.
    I still just want to see it from him. I figure that will be the best source.

    I will say, it does make sense, Josie's version. At least for what he would say. I have no clue if it actually happened that way or not.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Interesting, the Blaze version of Josie's account is totally different than the CNN version.

    From the Blaze...

    CNN Now Reporting Potential Bombshell in Ferguson Shooting Regarding What Alleged Friend of Officer Darren Wilson Told TheBlaze

    From CNN....

    What happened when Michael Brown met Officer Darren Wilson - CNN.com

    Getting the call about a robbery does give credence as to why the officer might suddenly put his cruiser into reverse and speed back to confront the two teens. I wonder why the CNN version left that bit out?
    CNN does seem to be downplaying that part, but they do mention it in another story.

    Dueling narratives in Michael Brown shooting - CNN.com

    In Josie's version, Wilson may have heard a call about a strong-arm robbery and saw the young men carrying something that might have been stolen cigars.
    It is sort of like when so many attached to the idea that this couldn't be the case because the Police Chief said that they weren't approached/stopped by Officer Wilson because of the robbery to begin with. He never said that Wilson didn't stop them the second time because of the robbery, nor did he even mention the second stop. I don't think this Chief is very good at releasing information in a way that helps. He seems exceptionally good at releasing it in a way that makes the situation worse in fact.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    I'm just saying that no one can claim Wilson had a spotless record as a cop.
    He DIDN'T.
    The entire police force of Jennings Mo was fired for insensitive and poor relations with the residents of the mostly black town.
    Wilson was on that force.
    Wilson was fired for cause.
    Wilson didn't apply for a position on the new police force in Jennings. Hmmm I wonder why...
    He went one town over and got a job in Ferguson on a police force with similar problems.
    The entire force was fired because they "cleaned house". They didn't want any perception by the public that there would be anyone left of the "old group" to cause issues. In reality, this could easily include guys who were completely innocent of any misconduct or abuse of power or discrimination or harassment. That is what happens sometimes. It happens (or at least used to happen, not sure how common it is now) in the business world if there is any kind of scandal that then leads to a business having new ownership. Even people who had absolutely nothing to do with the scandal, didn't know anything about it happening, are let go so that the new people can start from scratch.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    He got his notice of termination along with all the officers, for the same reasons they did.
    They were all bad cops and the town council did not make an exception for Wilson.
    I'm sure that if he got a commendation with all his other fellow officers in Jennings you would be blowing that horn.
    That simply isn't how it works. There are lots of times when people get fired because of the perception of the public, especially in public servant jobs, not their actual performance. They could be completely innocent, but still be fired because they are viewed as having "let it happen", even if there was really not much if anything they could personally do about it.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I think the point he's trying to make is that if the entire police department he was part of is/was in the wrong in some way, how can we fully trust any of it's members?
    Because that is making an assumption of guilt based on association. It isn't right. It does happen, especially when it comes to something like whether or not to fire everyone at a specific place of employment due to some sort of scandal or widespread misconduct. It does happen where even those who are innocent of any wrongdoing, or at least the wrongdoing the others are accused of are still fired or let go because of this. It is a flaw in our system that has very little remedy until we can teach the majority of people to judge individuals, not groups.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Maybe the pause was to reload!

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

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