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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Dorian Johnson was singing like a bird of his first hand account of the situation, gave a full interview with CNN on tape and didn't bother to mention this so called "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area". This would have made a bigger impact on his lies that Brown was shot in the back while holding his hands up, which also did not occur.

    Do you have anything to back up, that Dorian Johnson's account that Brown "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area" ?

    Actually, Johnson did mention that MB was shot in the chest in every interview I saw.....and the 'preliminary autopsy' does confirm that MB was shot in the upper right chest near his armpit......and another witness, Piaget Crenshaw also saw MB get shot when the cop was still in the car....and the police did confirm that a shot was fired inside the car. Really, the only evidence missing is Darren Wilson, the cop who shot dead an unarmed teenager for jaywalking.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Thanks for the link and yes indeed Johnson said it, but it's been proven to be wrong, Brown had no chest wounds. Appears Johnson enhanced the story for CNN, "I look in his window and I see he has his gun pointed at both of us. And when he fired his weapon, I moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. I saw the fire come out the barrel, and I instantly knew that it was a gun"

    Strange how he 'instantly knew it was a gun' when seconds before he saw the gun pointed at both of them.


    Johnson also said " At no point in time did they struggle over the weapon" when we now know Officer Wilson had a swollen face, which appears to be from a struggle.

    Johnson also said to CNN -- "we were running, and I was able to hide myself behind the first vehicle that was up on the scene. And the officer then got out of his car. My friend, Big Mike, was still running, he ran past me and saw me in plain sight. He said to me verbatim -- he said, "Keep running, Bro," and he kept running,

    And he fired a second shot and that struck my friend, Big Mike. And at that time, he turned around with his hands up, beginning to tell the officer that he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting. "

    Yet no gun shots were found in Browns back, as Johnson said were fired before Brown turned around.

    Dorian Johnson's creditability was lost when he thought the no one saw what happened in the neighborhood that fatal day.
    Why are you so keen to discount Johnson's testimony?

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually, Johnson did mention that MB was shot in the chest in every interview I saw.....and the 'preliminary autopsy' does confirm that MB was shot in the upper right chest near his armpit......and another witness, Piaget Crenshaw also saw MB get shot when the cop was still in the car....and the police did confirm that a shot was fired inside the car. Really, the only evidence missing is Darren Wilson, the cop who shot dead an unarmed teenager for jaywalking.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually, Johnson did mention that MB was shot in the chest in every interview I saw.....and the 'preliminary autopsy' does confirm that MB was shot in the upper right chest near his armpit......
    What did the autopsy results say of range? Especially with regard to any stilpling around the wound?

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Actually, Johnson did mention that MB was shot in the chest in every interview I saw.....and the 'preliminary autopsy' does confirm that MB was shot in the upper right chest near his armpit......and another witness, Piaget Crenshaw also saw MB get shot when the cop was still in the car....and the police did confirm that a shot was fired inside the car. Really, the only evidence missing is Darren Wilson, the cop who shot dead an unarmed teenager for jaywalking.
    He was not shot for jaywalking (although possible, not probable at all). That is hyperbole. In all likelihood, they were stopped the second time (which is pretty much even part of Johnson's story) because Wilson realized they fit the description of the robbery suspects that he either a) just got or b) simply didn't notice similarities til he went to drive away. Whether the robbery actually occurred or not would not change the fact that if he just got a report to be on the lookout for a couple of guys who reportedly robbed a store and he realized that these guys that he just talked to about walking in the street matched the description he had, then he very well likely would have backed up to detain them. The next likely step is that they resisted his detaining them. He then has cause to stop them, particularly if one of them punched him in the face. No clue if Brown also went for his gun. That too though would be another probable reason to consider Brown dangerous. You never reach for a police officer's gun. That gives them cause to shoot you, and it is normally enough to justify lethal force in an already hostile situation.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Thanks for the link and yes indeed Johnson said it, but it's been proven to be wrong, Brown had no chest wounds. Appears Johnson enhanced the story for CNN, "I look in his window and I see he has his gun pointed at both of us. And when he fired his weapon, I moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. I saw the fire come out the barrel, and I instantly knew that it was a gun"

    Strange how he 'instantly knew it was a gun' when seconds before he saw the gun pointed at both of them.


    Johnson also said " At no point in time did they struggle over the weapon" when we now know Officer Wilson had a swollen face, which appears to be from a struggle.

    Dorian Johnson's creditability was lost when he thought the no saw what happened in the neighborhood that fatal day.
    There is no question in my mind that parts of Johnson's account are, as you put it, enhanced. That doesn't at all mean that we take his entire testimony and throw it out the window. We don't consider his word to be 100% solid on its own, but we take it into consideration as a piece of a larger body of evidence.

    There are parts of his testimony that even the PD isn't disputing. We know for a fact that not all of his testimony is a lie, so why would we treat it as such?

    Tiffany Mitchell, Paiget Crenshaw, Emanual Freeman (@TheePharaoh), Michael Brady, and the aforementioned Dorian Johnson all stated that Wilson fired at Brown as Brown was running away. The man in the background of the so-called "game changer" video didn't explicitly say one way or another, but if anything his use of the language "the police KEPT dumping on him" when first directly referring to gunfire would lean towards evidence that there was prior gunfire - but should reasonably be classified as inconclusive. Now we have an alleged tape recording of the gun shots which doesn't provide hard proof, but fits well with the scenario of shots fired at Brown's back, followed by a separate volley of shots fired at his front.

    Oh yeah, and 9 days ago The New York Times reported that law enforcement officials confirmed that Wilson fired his weapon as Brown and Johnson were running away but didn't hit anyone, and nobody involved in the investigation has tried to deny it to my knowledge.

    So now we have the police confirming a key aspect of multiple eyewitnesses' accounts, including Johnson's. There is a person claiming to speak on behalf of someone who witnessed the shooting that failed to mention the fact that shots were fired at Brown's back...Josie. In fact, im contrast to the man in the "game changer" video, she used the term "so he just STARTED shooting" to describe when Wilson opened fire when Brown was allegedly bumrushing him.

    So who's credibility is really lost?
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    False.
    Agreed. ALLEGED jaywalking.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Agreed. ALLEGED jaywalking.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Hmmm, 11 shots fired, and only 6 hit Brown? only.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Is that the story? The back shots missed?
    It fits with cops second hand story that the MB and Johnson were trying to run away from him.

    Josie: "Michael takes off with his friend. They get to be about 35 feet away and Darren [Wilson], of course protocol is to pursue. So he stands up and yells, ‘Freeze!' Michael and his friend turn around and Michael starts taunting him. ‘Oh, what are you going to do about it? You're not gonna shoot me.'
    What happened when Michael Brown met Officer Darren Wilson - CNN.com

    None of the witnesses said they saw Johnson or MB stop running and turn to taunt the cop with his gun pulled out. They all said that MB stopped and turned with his hands up and the autopsy confirms that the bullet wounds in his arm are consistent with wounds to arms held up.

    That cop has got some explaining to do.

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