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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    Without more info, it seems unlikely. There would be blood - which would be very easy to determine - on the car or the cop. We haven't heard a thing about that.. And I suspect that would have come out by now.
    I agree that there would be blood in or near the car if he did get shot there. However, I'm not sure if it would have come out yet. There are always parts of investigations that are not publicly released. And this particular piece of information wouldn't really help either way. It would just provide more material for people to speculate if it actually happened.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    "The eye witness"? There are numerous eye witnesses. The fact that they saw/heard shots being fired with Brown's back turned and mistakenly concluded that he was hit does not discredit their accounts. It's a perfectly natural conclusion to go from "shots fired at someone" to "someone was shot."

    Has anyone mentioned the fact that Dorian Johnson's account that Brown "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area" is completely consistent with a number of the wounds shown on the autopsy sketch? Or does the fact that Johnson had committed a petty theft a few years ago and gave police a false age and slightly different first name mean that we throw out his entire testimony, in spite of evidence that supports it?
    The witnesses are wrong and their accounts aren't discredited?
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The witnesses are wrong and their accounts aren't discredited?
    You think they were lying because they all thought he was shot in the back when it turns out those shots missed? Is seeing whether a bullet is lodged in a person's body the same as seeing whether someone runs 30 feet at full speed?

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I agree that there would be blood in or near the car if he did get shot there. However, I'm not sure if it would have come out yet. There are always parts of investigations that are not publicly released. And this particular piece of information wouldn't really help either way. It would just provide more material for people to speculate if it actually happened.
    Absolutely 1000% agree, rogue. In fact, it's pretty much par for the course for the police to withhold information intentionally, and there are valid reasons for it.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    You think they were lying because they all thought he was shot in the back when it turns out those shots missed? Is seeing whether a bullet is lodged in a person's body the same as seeing whether someone runs 30 feet at full speed?
    Is that the story? The back shots missed?
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Is that the story? The back shots missed?
    Yes. You know, because both the shooter and the target were moving. Ridiculous, right? Black people say the darnedest things [when providing eye witness accounts of a homicide].

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Has anyone mentioned the fact that Dorian Johnson's account that Brown "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area" is completely consistent with a number of the wounds shown on the autopsy sketch? Or does the fact that Johnson had committed a petty theft a few years ago and gave police a false age and slightly different first name mean that we throw out his entire testimony, in spite of evidence that supports it?
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    And I suspect that would have come out by now.
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    Why is that?
    Dorian Johnson was singing like a bird of his first hand account of the situation, gave a full interview with CNN on tape and didn't bother to mention this so called "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area". This would have made a bigger impact on his lies that Brown was shot in the back while holding his hands up, which also did not occur.

    Do you have anything to back up, that Dorian Johnson's account that Brown "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area" ?

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    So far, as far as I've seen, there's been no evidence released that rules out two broad scenarios: One, that Darren Wilson was being charged and fired because he was being attacked, or two, that Michael Brown was kneeling with his hands up and was shot intentionally twice in the head by officer Wilson.

    I hope that, at some point, we learn the exact heights of Brown and Wilson, and the exact trajectory of the bullets through his head. That will determine the relative positions of the two men at the time the fatal shots were fired. Until then, there is no way to rule out either scenario.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Meadowlark View Post
    Dorian Johnson was singing like a bird of his first hand account of the situation, gave a full interview with CNN on tape and didn't bother to mention this so called "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area". This would have made a bigger impact on his lies that Brown was shot in the back while holding his hands up, which also did not occur.

    Do you have anything to back up, that Dorian Johnson's account that Brown "was struck in the chest or upper region [by the first shot in the car] because I saw blood splatter down his side, his right area" ?
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...13/cnr.06.html

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by JC_CT View Post
    Thanks for the link and yes indeed Johnson said it, but it's been proven to be wrong, Brown had no chest wounds. Appears Johnson enhanced the story for CNN, "I look in his window and I see he has his gun pointed at both of us. And when he fired his weapon, I moved seconds before he pulled the trigger. I saw the fire come out the barrel, and I instantly knew that it was a gun"

    Strange how he 'instantly knew it was a gun' when seconds before he saw the gun pointed at both of them.


    Johnson also said " At no point in time did they struggle over the weapon" when we now know Officer Wilson had a swollen face, which appears to be from a struggle.

    Johnson also said to CNN -- "we were running, and I was able to hide myself behind the first vehicle that was up on the scene. And the officer then got out of his car. My friend, Big Mike, was still running, he ran past me and saw me in plain sight. He said to me verbatim -- he said, "Keep running, Bro," and he kept running,

    And he fired a second shot and that struck my friend, Big Mike. And at that time, he turned around with his hands up, beginning to tell the officer that he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting. "

    Yet no gun shots were found in Browns back, as Johnson said were fired before Brown turned around.

    Dorian Johnson's creditability was lost when he thought the no one saw what happened in the neighborhood that fatal day.
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