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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Where is the hospital report and statement on their examination of Brown? Link?
    My bad the claim of a swollen face was made by Police Chief Jackson.
    After the incident, Wilson was taken to a local hospital, where he was treated for a "swollen face," according to Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson.
    Of course patient information can not be released by a hospital unless it is subpoenaed or released by the patient themselves.
    Jackson's report to the press is the only official information available to anyone about Wilson's injuries and he only described it as a "swollen face".
    It has been reported that Wilson was at the hospital for less than an hour indicating that the injury to his face was not very serious at all. Nowhere is there any official information that says that the eye or eye area was involved.

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    re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    By Holly Yan, CNN
    updated 12:36 AM EDT, Tue August 26, 2014


    [...]

    In the recording, a quick series of shots can be heard, followed by a pause and then another quick succession of shots.

    "I personally heard at least 11" shots, the man's attorney, Lopa Blumenthal, told CNN's Don Lemon.

    The man, who asked that his identity not be revealed, lives near the site of the shooting and was close enough to have heard the gunshots, Blumenthal said.

    He was speaking to a friend on a video chat service and happened to be recording the conversation at the same time Brown was shot, Blumenthal said.

    [...]
    Lawyer: Audio shows 11 shots when Michael Brown killed - CNN.com


    11 Shots in 5 seconds.
    Short pause between 6 and the other five. Likely Brown was still coming at him.
    Just more evidence.
    Their guns don't hold 11 bullets, do they? Policemen don't have assault weapons like citizens do.
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    re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    So if you are in a fire fight and the opponent surrenders his weapon and waves a white flag and comes out with his hands up ...
    You would still drop him?

    Oh ...period? ....
    Got it...

    So in less than 3 seconds, he stopped, turned around, dropped to his knees, raised his hands AND waved a white flag ?

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    WhatI hear is the first set of six shots were while Brown was running away and Wilson was chasing him ...Only one of these shots hit Brown because of all the running movement by both, the grazing wound to the right fore-arm.
    The pause was when Brown stopped and turned around putting up his hands and falling to his knees.
    Now a still target, all the remaining five shots found their mark the last one entering the top of Browns head as he fell to the pavement,
    That last one in the group of five was the murder round.
    This all fits perfectly with eye-witness testimony of what they saw happen.
    The disturbing part is the shot we didn't hear... the one supposedly fired as Brown was supposedly going for Wilson's gun in the car.
    I'm sure that if we can hear the other shots this clearly that a shot even fired inside the car would still be audible through the open window.
    If it was on the tape I suspect that CNN would have played it, but it starts with the group of six rounds...
    Curious eh?
    You're mixing certain facts with some assumptions. You're mixing gunshots, of which there is no dispute, with your assumption of WHY gunshots were fired, which hasn't been resolved, is in dispute, and of which there is no evidence. Unless you can hear his footsteps getting fainter and someone yelling at him, "Stop! Quit trying to run away and come back here so I can shoot you!" The gunshots were in the front of his body, per the autopsies, I believe.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    My bad the claim of a swollen face was made by Police Chief Jackson.

    Of course patient information can not be released by a hospital unless it is subpoenaed or released by the patient themselves.
    Jackson's report to the press is the only official information available to anyone about Wilson's injuries and he only described it as a "swollen face".
    It has been reported that Wilson was at the hospital for less than an hour indicating that the injury to his face was not very serious at all. Nowhere is there any official information that says that the eye or eye area was involved.
    You said:

    The hospital reported examining Wilson for a slight swelling on his face and releasing him almost immediately.

    The hospital never reported that. Jackson also never said that.

    Everyone is making statements and nobody knows any of the facts.

    Nowhere is there any official information that says that the eye or eye area was involved.

    I don't know if there was an eye injury or not. Nor do you. But the reality Buck is that none of us are privy to any "official information", nor will we be before the court system is.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    What evidence is there to show that he had a " busted eye"?
    The hospital reported examining Wilson for a slight swelling on his face and releasing him almost immediately.
    All talk of a "busted eye" is pure conjecture or debunked, made up lies.
    I saw a photo on the internet that was from a distance away, and even from that distance you could tell his eye was banged up. So it must've been noticeable, to be observable in a pic from a distance. People aren't usually hospitalized for a black eye or banged up face.

    You make yourself look silly if you start calling "lies!" based on evidence that is conclusive, like photographs.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nice double standard ya got there!
    No double standard at all.
    The law is constrained by what can be legally presumed about the guilt of an accused defendant.
    No such legal constraint can be applied to the public or any individual outside of the legal system.
    A double standard would be, if some people had to be presumed innocent by the law and others were not.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by JumpinJack View Post
    I saw a photo on the internet that was from a distance away, and even from that distance you could tell his eye was banged up. So it must've been noticeable, to be observable in a pic from a distance. People aren't usually hospitalized for a black eye or banged up face.

    You make yourself look silly if you start calling "lies!" based on evidence that is conclusive, like photographs.
    Link to the picture?

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    My bad the claim of a swollen face was made by Police Chief Jackson.

    Of course patient information can not be released by a hospital unless it is subpoenaed or released by the patient themselves.
    Jackson's report to the press is the only official information available to anyone about Wilson's injuries and he only described it as a "swollen face".
    It has been reported that Wilson was at the hospital for less than an hour indicating that the injury to his face was not very serious at all. Nowhere is there any official information that says that the eye or eye area was involved.
    Actually, it really doesn't take long to fix broken face parts since they really have to just heal on their own. You get medication and they send you on your way if that is the only injury, possibly some restrictions on wearing face masks. It only took a little over an hour after I broke my nose for me to leave medical on the ship and the vast majority of that time was spent either getting my hands xrayed (I had also hit my hand against the handwheel I broke my nose on and the corpsman xrayed the wrong one despite telling them at least twice it was the wrong one, so they did both) and I had to set up my surgery with the dental surgeon for the next night.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You said:

    The hospital reported examining Wilson for a slight swelling on his face and releasing him almost immediately.

    The hospital never reported that. Jackson also never said that.

    Everyone is making statements and nobody knows any of the facts.

    Nowhere is there any official information that says that the eye or eye area was involved.

    I don't know if there was an eye injury or not. Nor do you. But the reality Buck is that none of us are privy to any "official information", nor will we be before the court system is.
    I prefaced my last post with " My bad."
    When Crue Cab declared that Wilson had a "busted eye" I felt the need to refute his assumption and I overstated the available evidence. He had no more grounds to make a statement about a busted eye than I had to make about a hospital report ... but we gotta talk about something while we are waiting for the indictment to come from the Grand Jury ... don't we?

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