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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Miss, miss, miss, miss, hit, hit, pause, adjust hit, hit, hit, hit.

    Now, the officer could have been firing warning shots first off trying to stop advancement. The officer was said to be beaten, so he could have been cockeyed missing the first 4 and then finally got his bearings,

    The first two probably got him in the arm, which wouldn't slow him down, the final four doing him in.

    There's too many what if's that lead to a reasonable doubt.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    Miss, miss, miss, miss, hit, hit, pause, adjust hit, hit, hit, hit.

    Now, the officer could have been firing warning shots first off trying to stop advancement. The officer was said to be beaten, so he could have been cockeyed missing the first 4 and then finally got his bearings,

    The first two probably got him in the arm, which wouldn't slow him down, the final four doing him in.

    There's too many what if's that lead to a reasonable doubt.
    It could either support or negate Officer Wilson's claims and it's impossible for us to know which at this point. Once we know Wilson's official statement, more can be drawn from the recording of the shots. I suspect it will support his statement, but that's just speculative on my part.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It could either support or negate Officer Wilson's claims and it's impossible for us to know which at this point. Once we know Wilson's official statement, more can be drawn from the recording of the shots. I suspect it will support his statement, but that's just speculative on my part.
    at this stage I would be surprised if the GJ indicts...If they do it will end in a NG. Like I said, too many what ifs...

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    I thought of that.
    It could be that he had his headphones with a mic boom on and had just started recording at that very moment.


    If not, yeah, it is highly suspicious.
    I'm never had a headphones setup that didn't play the mic pickup back in my headphones.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    "CNN cannot independently verify authenticity of the recording and is awaiting confirmation from the FBI."

    'nuff said. I'll wait until it's actually validated.
    This is my favorite post in this thread. Multiple likes.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    at this stage I would be surprised if the GJ indicts...If they do it will end in a NG. Like I said, too many what ifs...
    the only way an indictment cannot happen is if they can absolutely show that the policeman acted appropriately
    and there is nothing to indicate that
    just as with the trayvon case, a trial is needed to show the community that justice resulted after the shooting
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Or just as likely that he was lying on the ground with blood seeping out of multiple bullet wounds, eh?

    How can anyone really know if they weren't an eyewitness?
    Well, if brown was laying on the ground and Wilson only struck 6 times at point blank range, I'd say Wilson needs some better training.
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    re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot[W:72,732]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the only way an indictment cannot happen is if they can absolutely show that the policeman acted appropriately
    and there is nothing to indicate that
    just as with the trayvon case, a trial is needed to show the community that justice resulted after the shooting
    Keep hoping.

    If there was any credibility in Johnson's statements, or the three other witnesses that echoed his lies, there would have been an indictment already.

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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Have you tried it? 30 feet is actually the 'self defense' distance that most people practice at for that purpose (self defense). So many of us (regular people) train in situations where you shoot things at that distance and closer...moving, from behind different barriers, laying down, changing out magazines on the move, being timed. That is pressure enough. It is very hard under that pressure alone. One drill is just hitting paper plates at 30 feet while moving....not that easy, it requires a lot of focus...and you are not in fear for your life which is pretty much a given any time ANYONE, cop or other, has a legit reason to use lethal force.

    I'm guessing you were not in the military. You can be aiming as hard as you can...you also have to control your body. There are only so many ways that kind of stress can be simulated for training. Otherwise, you do not know how you will react until it really happens.

    So you choose to risk the cop's lives and the publics' but limiting the cop's capacity to defend themselves, instead of weighing the danger of the criminal escaping and continuing to be a risk. That's your opinion.
    Behind barriers, left handed, right handed, against moving target. And yes it's hard. Many times so when under real pressure I'd imagine - and no I've never been in that situation with firearm.

    I said as much in post didn't I? I'm simply saying that all those missed shots represent a real risk to innocent people. Not the potential risk that an escaping person might represent or the non risk that Brown represented.

    And yeah the though had crossed my mind that the fact that cops are armed with semi autos with high capacity magazines might have something to do with it. When they were typically armed .38 revolvers I don't think situations like Brown's where a dozen shots were fired
    were as common but I might be wrong about that.

    And I'm not saying we should take away the autos either. Just recognize that you may be trading innocent people's safety for cops' safety
    and given that cops voluntarily take on the risks of their jobs - such as they are being a cop is pretty safe occupation - I'm not sure that's a fair tradeoff.
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    Re: Attorney: New audio reveals pause in gunfire when Michael Brown was shot

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Have you practiced shooting it while moving? From behind cover? Under pressure?
    Another point. You've spoken at length about the firearms training that police receive. Are you an officer? Do you know any? My kid brother retired from the NYPD, one of my closest friends retired from the the Nassau County PD. At least when they were in both departments the sense that I got from both is that the firearms training wasn't anything to write home about. And the recurrent training wasn't pretty sparse.
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