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    BBC: African-American police officer: Ferguson 'heart wrenching'

    BBC News - African-American police officer: Ferguson 'heart wrenching'

    The killing of unarmed teenager Michael Brown led to days of protests in the town of Ferguson, Missouri, and amplified a rift between the town's African-American residents and the police in the region. But what about police officers who are also black?


    The BBC's Aleem Maqbool spoke with a black female police officer who works in the St Louis area.


    She discussed her take on the controversy in Ferguson and the realities of race on the force. Out of consideration for her job, she asked not to be identified.
    Heard part of this on the radio while driving home from work this morning.

    Thought it might be an interesting discussion starter.
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    Re: BBC: African-American police officer: Ferguson 'heart wrenching'

    Oh the right won't like this! She'll be discredited somehow, someway.
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    I read this earlier today. Her account is not surprising and, in fact, sounds very similar to how a lot of posters on DP speak about the black protesters and black people in general. That aspect of it is sad. However, I am happy that perspectives like hers are being covered by mainstream media more than have ever before. Marginalized groups are now getting more coverage and that's a good thing.

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    Re: BBC: African-American police officer: Ferguson 'heart wrenching'

    To me it sounded like it was less a racial thing and more a cultural disconnect.

    That black persons happened to be on one side of that disconnect, in the main, seemed more incidental than the core reason.
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    Good article. I even think the questions were good. This is a major problem and it really does need to be addressed, but how?
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    Just wanted to add. How do you change an impression? Training can't do it, so how do you make the officers see what the people see and feel? Empathy is hard if not impossible to teach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To me it sounded like it was less a racial thing and more a cultural disconnect.

    That black persons happened to be on one side of that disconnect, in the main, seemed more incidental than the core reason.
    The problem is there is no single core reason. It's like every other situation that involved humans. There are a variety of things that motivate a single individuals actions. There is a little bit of truth in just about everyone's perspective. The primary reason there seems to be such difficulty in resolution is that no one seems to be capable of acknowledging and then addressing things on a case by case basis. Everyone wants to paint with a single brush stroke. That never works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    Just wanted to add. How do you change an impression? Training can't do it, so how do you make the officers see what the people see and feel? Empathy is hard if not impossible to teach.
    I think both the community and the police force would benefit by events that brought them together as individuals instead of cultural stereotypes. When you have an opportunity to see a person as a person instead of a thing it changes your perception
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    To me it sounded like it was less a racial thing and more a cultural disconnect.

    That black persons happened to be on one side of that disconnect, in the main, seemed more incidental than the core reason.
    The racial disconnect in Ferguson is much more than "incidental" and she articulated that quite clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The racial disconnect in Ferguson is much more than "incidental" and she articulated that quite clearly.
    Indeed.

    But the key word is disconnect - it sounded like it was more a cultural disconnect - as in the mainly white police force flat out does not understand where the people who live in the mainly black community are coming from - rather than actual racism on the part of the police.

    Perhaps that's effectively racism, but from what the interviewee was saying it sounded more like bad assumptions on the part of the police.

    I found this bit especially telling:

    What do you mean about your white colleagues perception of what has happened in Ferguson as being "far-fetched"?

    [In Ferguson] I see a hurt group of individuals, and they see a bunch of unruly ignorant people.

    They are treating it as if this community is full of an angry mob that wants to just tear up everything and they should be satisfied with what they had.

    But the point is you shouldn't make such an assumption that they should be happy with what they had. They shouldn't. You wouldn't be.

    I know Ferguson is not a group of ignorant uneducated people that are unruly. They are just a bunch of frustrated people who have tried and tried, but have been met with negative results.

    You have a few apartment complexes in Ferguson, but there's a lot of neighbourhoods, well kept lawns. Where people work together as a community - they have jobs, work hard every day. They are probably exhausted, they're just trying to build [a] better life for families.
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